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Old March 18 2009, 08:49 AM   #31
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Re: Vessel dimensions & masses

JNG, I am not sufficently tech-savvy to post links (I know it's probably pathetically easy, but I don't have one of my sarcastic teenagers here to help me), but if you look at the Sovereign article in the Starship Database section of Ex Astris Scientia, at www.ex-astris-scientia.com, they discussed the Nemesis changes there but gave no figures on new height.

Also, folks, per the cutaway posters (from 1993 on the Enterprise-D and 1996 on the Enterprise-E)...

Galaxy-class...464.25 meters long x 467.0 wide x 137.5 tall, and 397,805 tons (!)

Sovereign-class...685 meters long x 250 wide (214 across the nacelles) x 88 tall, and 3,205,000 tons.
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Old March 18 2009, 08:51 PM   #32
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JNG, I am not sufficently tech-savvy to post links (I know it's probably pathetically easy, but I don't have one of my sarcastic teenagers here to help me), but if you look at the Sovereign article in the Starship Database section of Ex Astris Scientia, at www.ex-astris-scientia.com, they discussed the Nemesis changes there but gave no figures on new height.
You did it

The EAS article on Sovereign changes does indeed contain those same sketches under discussion.
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Old March 19 2009, 05:28 AM   #33
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Yeah, by accident, not design. If I really knew what I was doing, I'd be able to post a link right to that section.
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Old April 7 2009, 03:45 PM   #34
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I copied and pasted this German paragraph into
Google's Language Translation webpage...

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"Langsam umrundeten sie das gigantische weiße Schiff: seine elegant gewölbte, 146 Meter weite, scheibenförmige Primärhülle, die geschweifte, an einen Schiffssteven erinnernde Verbindungs- „Finne“ zur langgestreckten zigarrenförmigen Sekundär- oder Maschinenhülle, und die beiden 155 Meter langen, je 31 000 Tonnen schweren Haupttriebwerksgondeln an ihren schräggestellten, 60 Meter langen Auslegern. Die Länge des gesamten Schiffes maß 305 Meter, sein Gewicht betrug 190 000 Tonnen."
Gradually they surrounded the huge white ship: its elegantly arched, 146 meters wide, Disc primary shell, the curved, like a Schiffssteven Connection Finn secondary to elongated cigar-hull or machinery, and the two 155 meters long, each 31 000-ton main engine nacelles allocated to their slanted, 60 meters long outriggers. The entire length of the ship measured 305 meters, its weight was 190 000 tons.
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Old April 14 2009, 03:52 PM   #35
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From "Mr. Scott's Guide To The Enterprise", July 1987, by Shane Johnson...

Constitution-class (refit)...990.6 feet long x 460.5 feet wide x 231.7 feet high overall; primary hull 475.4 feet long x 460.5 feet wide x 106.9 feet high; secondary hull 393.2 feet long x 106.9 feet wide x 154.3 feet high; nacelles 503.1 feet long x 40.9 feet wide x 54.9 feet high. Ship has 21 decks.
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Old April 14 2009, 08:44 PM   #36
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I thought the refit was supposed to be an even 1000 feet long at one point?
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Old April 14 2009, 09:25 PM   #37
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I thought so, too, but it doesn't appear Mr. Johnson had access to the Star Trek III size chart we have seen. Of course, the materials he probably had access to in the mid-80s weren't anything like we have access to now.
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Old April 14 2009, 10:27 PM   #38
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Ah, well as long as I didn't hallucinate it.

There are certain things in Mr. Scott's Guide (such as transwarp being a success) that I take with a grain of salt. Perhaps the size figures should be another?
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Old April 14 2009, 10:40 PM   #39
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Praetor, there were a number of items in the book that weren't "right", such as the Enterprise returning from the five-year mission in 2212, and the "Whalesong Incident" (ST4) in 2222. But then again, this was written well before the Okudachron...

Mr. Scott's guide did have something neat...the port and starboard ventral phasers at the bottom of the secondary hull, as well as the two single-mount phasers above the shuttlebay door. Not sure off the top of my head if even "Starship Spotter" had that.
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Old April 14 2009, 10:54 PM   #40
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Ah yes, I'd forgotten the date weirdnesses.

I think those phasers were present in Starship Spotter, but I'm not sure.
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Old April 17 2009, 01:52 PM   #41
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Well, folks, I have compiled date from Ex Astris Scientia and a number of other sites, but before I collate it and present it, does anyone have any specific sites they'd recommend I check out for ship dimensions first?
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