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Old March 16 2009, 02:04 PM   #106
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Re: Heroes 3x19 "Shades of Gray" Discuss and Grade

Whoever Nathan is carrying can stab and wound and shoot him, though. So he couldn't take out an army.
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Old March 16 2009, 07:15 PM   #107
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oh eeeww, now Im getting memories of when Claire cut off her toe & everyone here was debating whether a new Claire would grow out of the old toe. >_<

which reminds me we havent seen a Multiple Man type character yet...
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Old March 17 2009, 07:41 AM   #108
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oh eeeww, now Im getting memories of when Claire cut off her toe & everyone here was debating whether a new Claire would grow out of the old toe. >_<

which reminds me we havent seen a Multiple Man type character yet...
There was a Multiple Man in one of the webcomics. The Company drugged him and hooked him up to machines to force him to make an endless supply of duplicates whom they used as expendable agents, there was a big multi-part storyline about an attempt to rescue him.

The webcomics are, by far, superior to the tv series.
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Old March 17 2009, 07:25 PM   #109
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The webcomics are, by far, superior to the tv series.
Of course. When you don't have to worry about ratings or SFX budgets, you can be as creative as you want. You might have to worry about the occasional editor, but that's about it.
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Old March 17 2009, 07:34 PM   #110
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So are we all agreed that 'Shades of Grey' should never be used as an episode title for any show again?

Nor should "Endgame" be used for yet another finale or "Countdown" be used for any type of episode that leads up to a bigger event.
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Old March 17 2009, 08:54 PM   #111
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So concerning Sylar's ability. Is it possible that since he has demonstrated empathic mimicry that this is his natural ability. And perhaps he absorbed his father's intuitive aptitude and the overiding "hunger" makes Sylar think that that power is his natural ability.
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Old March 17 2009, 09:21 PM   #112
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It is possible, but I like to think that it is more likely that Arthur gave him that power using his ability transfer ability in order to better control him. It would make more sense. Of course, Heroes hasn't made sense for some time now.
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Old March 17 2009, 09:43 PM   #113
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^We have never seen any evidence that Arthur could give people powers. He wouldn't have needed the formula if he could.
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Old March 17 2009, 09:55 PM   #114
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Shuffling around a finite number of powers is very different from creating entirely new powers. He'd still need the formula, because his intent was to give powers to everyone.
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Old March 17 2009, 11:07 PM   #115
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Shuffling around a finite number of powers is very different from creating entirely new powers. He'd still need the formula, because his intent was to give powers to everyone.
He had no ability to give anyone powers. At best, he had a greater understanding of Sylar's intuitive aptitude than Sylar did. Sylar only believed that he had to kill a person to take their power because that's what worked for him the first time.

Killing them is more expedient, though.
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Old March 18 2009, 03:33 AM   #116
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So are we all agreed that 'Shades of Grey' should never be used as an episode title for any show again?
How about "Shades of Erin Gray" as a title?
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