Ratings are in ! - Page 30

archeryguy1701 · March 12 2009, 07:44 AM

^Because when you get right down to it, the point isn't the ratings at all.

tomalak301 · March 12 2009, 08:10 AM

dru wrote:

tomalak301 wrote:

Can we get a mod to close this thread so it can stay dead.

I don't see why. There were new episodes again and thus new ratings.

You do know the series finale is in a week and a half, right?

MyCylon · March 12 2009, 10:59 AM

TheMasterOfOrion wrote:

and why these Skiffy idiots have green-lit Caprica?

They're obviously making money out of nuBSG and hope the same will be true for Caprica.

That's the only reason any company will greenlight anything and it's the way any company works. It's basic economics, really.

A strong emphasis in this strategy seems to be on the DVDs. Think about "Razor" or the "Plan" as well as the fact that the "Caprica" pilot debuts on DVD.

Bishbot · March 12 2009, 12:23 PM

That's some very classy answering him sensibly there Justtoyourleft. Just remember that this is the guy who whined to the mods in QSF that he doesn't feel welcome here and tried to get the BSG forum shut down because the show is ending/he's got some vendetta against the show. Kind of a hilarious thread actually.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=84330

MyCylon · March 12 2009, 12:41 PM

^
Thanks

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And I remember him well enough.

Bishbot · March 12 2009, 01:21 PM

Justtoyourleft wrote:

^
Thanks

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And I remember him well enough.

Oh, I'm sure you do. I just thought you'd enjoy that thread, if you hadn't already seen it

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MyCylon · March 12 2009, 01:53 PM

^
I hadn't, mind you. An interesting read.

TheGodBen · March 12 2009, 03:59 PM

TheMasterOfOrion wrote:

worst ratings since Painkiller Jayne

and why these Skiffy idiots have green-lit Caprica?

You bump a months old thread to show us a graph that doesn't even include the ratings from season 4.5?

Why?

Actually, since that graph is curving back up by the end we could make the mathematically sound deduction that the ratings for 4.5 are up, not that they are. So you bump an old thread to show us the ratings data from last year which actually manages to destroy the point you were trying to make. Once again I must ask; Why?

Mr Awe · March 12 2009, 08:15 PM

TheMasterOfOrion wrote:

worst ratings since Painkiller Jayne

and why these Skiffy idiots have green-lit Caprica?

The trend line makes it look like ratings have decline since season 3 but they really haven't. The ratings for seasons 3 and 4 are equivalent.

Mr Awe

Gregsmack · March 12 2009, 08:24 PM

Do some people still actually equate the number of viewers with a show's quality? Too much faith in the tastes of the average TV viewer is what that is. I guess American Idol is the greatest program ever aired, Titanic is an insurmountable masterpiece of cinema, and 50 Cent is the second coming of Beethoven. Let's not even mention 'Twilight' -- the finest collection of bound words since the Bible.

ATimson · March 12 2009, 11:48 PM

Mr Awe wrote:

The trend line makes it look like ratings have decline since season 3 but they really haven't. The ratings for seasons 3 and 4 are equivalent.

Season 3 on average, maybe, but the front half is noticeably higher than S4 (and the back half noticeably lower).

You're also ignoring that the trend line continues to drop because of the rather-abysmal "Razor" ratings, and that it actually picks up for S4.

ATimson · March 12 2009, 11:49 PM

Gregsmack wrote:

Do some people still actually equate the number of viewers with a show's quality? Too much faith in the tastes of the average TV viewer is what that is.

I think that with BSG people who are trying to prove a decline in quality are looking less at the numbers compared to other shows, and more at how they've lost half their audience since season 1.

Gregsmack · March 13 2009, 12:10 AM

^ But that's still numbers.

What's an audience anyhow? I don't live in a Nielson house (or whatever the term may be) but I don't watch the shows as they air. I find other, mainly illegal, ways of seeing the episodes and everyone else I know that watches the show (many people) do the same thing.

Plus, as good as season 1 was, it was still very tame compared to what we are getting now. I'm not going to make an argument that the show has gotten better (although I think it has) but it has certainly gotten uglier. BSG isn't that easy of a show to watch, and I can understand casual TV viewers might be turned off by it.

Not to mention, BSG's time slot has been brutal since the beginning, and Sci-Fi's airing of different seasons is enough to turn any casual fan anyway.

I'm not trying to start a stats battle here, because I don't have the research to back it up. However, I do think it's worth noting that just about everyone I know that watches BSG has caught onto it around about season 3.5. This is hardly definitive evidence, and I am NOT trying to pose it as such, but I imagine the reality of BSG's audience is much, much higher than that time-slot statistic indicates. And if that's the case, the audience level = quality argument is as flawed as the ratings argument.

ATimson · March 13 2009, 12:47 AM

Gregsmack wrote:

^ But that's still numbers.

Well, apparently the point that you were trying to make was not the one I got from your post.

Gregsmack wrote:

I'm not trying to start a stats battle here, because I don't have the research to back it up. However, I do think it's worth noting that just about everyone I know that watches BSG has caught onto it around about season 3.5. This is hardly definitive evidence, and I am NOT trying to pose it as such, but I imagine the reality of BSG's audience is much, much higher than that time-slot statistic indicates.

To bring in my own anecdotal audience, half of the people I know who watch the show stopped at various points during season two. Hell, until I got my new job late last year I thought that everybody else I knew who watched it had quit. So my personal experience lines up perfectly with Sci-fi's numbers.

I suppose it's possible that, as the measured audience has shrunk, the non-measured audience has stayed the same or even grown. I just don't think it terribly likely.

Zod · March 13 2009, 12:50 AM

This thread bump is a waste of time.

The show ends in two weeks so who gives a shit about ratings from 2008? Mods put this thread out of its well deserved misery.

March 12 2009, 07:44 AM	#436
archeryguy1701 Rear Admiral Location: Cheyenne, WY	Re: Ratings are in ! ^Because when you get right down to it, the point isn't the ratings at all. __________________ "If it weren't for stupid, difficult races, there'd simply be no point to living." Sometimes you just gotta roll the hard six- Bill Adama

March 12 2009, 12:23 PM	#439
Bishbot Fleet Captain	Re: Ratings are in ! That's some very classy answering him sensibly there Justtoyourleft. Just remember that this is the guy who whined to the mods in QSF that he doesn't feel welcome here and tried to get the BSG forum shut down because the show is ending/he's got some vendetta against the show. Kind of a hilarious thread actually. http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=84330

March 12 2009, 12:41 PM	#440
MyCylon Rear Admiral Location: Am I a Cylon?	Re: Ratings are in ! ^ Thanks . And I remember him well enough. __________________ "For everyone lost in the endlessly multiplicating realities of the modern world, remember: Philip K. Dick got there first" - Terry Gilliam

March 12 2009, 01:53 PM	#442
MyCylon Rear Admiral Location: Am I a Cylon?	Re: Ratings are in ! ^ I hadn't, mind you. An interesting read. __________________ "For everyone lost in the endlessly multiplicating realities of the modern world, remember: Philip K. Dick got there first" - Terry Gilliam

March 12 2009, 08:24 PM	#445
Gregsmack Captain Location: Toronto, Ontario	Re: Ratings are in ! Do some people still actually equate the number of viewers with a show's quality? Too much faith in the tastes of the average TV viewer is what that is. I guess American Idol is the greatest program ever aired, Titanic is an insurmountable masterpiece of cinema, and 50 Cent is the second coming of Beethoven. Let's not even mention 'Twilight' -- the finest collection of bound words since the Bible. __________________ "Lay off the Greeks. They invented civilization."

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March 13 2009, 12:10 AM	#448
Gregsmack Captain Location: Toronto, Ontario	Re: Ratings are in ! ^ But that's still numbers. What's an audience anyhow? I don't live in a Nielson house (or whatever the term may be) but I don't watch the shows as they air. I find other, mainly illegal, ways of seeing the episodes and everyone else I know that watches the show (many people) do the same thing. Plus, as good as season 1 was, it was still very tame compared to what we are getting now. I'm not going to make an argument that the show has gotten better (although I think it has) but it has certainly gotten uglier. BSG isn't that easy of a show to watch, and I can understand casual TV viewers might be turned off by it. Not to mention, BSG's time slot has been brutal since the beginning, and Sci-Fi's airing of different seasons is enough to turn any casual fan anyway. I'm not trying to start a stats battle here, because I don't have the research to back it up. However, I do think it's worth noting that just about everyone I know that watches BSG has caught onto it around about season 3.5. This is hardly definitive evidence, and I am NOT trying to pose it as such, but I imagine the reality of BSG's audience is much, much higher than that time-slot statistic indicates. And if that's the case, the audience level = quality argument is as flawed as the ratings argument. __________________ "Lay off the Greeks. They invented civilization."

March 13 2009, 12:50 AM	#450
Zod Commander Location: NY	Re: Ratings are in ! This thread bump is a waste of time. The show ends in two weeks so who gives a shit about ratings from 2008? Mods put this thread out of its well deserved misery.