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Old March 7 2009, 09:35 PM   #16
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Re: Ambassador class

I thought the deck count of an ambassador class was 36 decks....
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Old March 7 2009, 10:19 PM   #17
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Well Rick S. Gave the real length which is 478.55m so I played with the hight and I got 126m Then Rick S gave the hight he use for making the cutaways, which is 13 feet. 126m to feet is 413 feet. I get 31.7 decks. Now you could round down to 31 or even 30 decks.

The deck count could jump up and down depending what the ship needs. Now you can have tanks at the bottom of the ship, that takes up the space of 1 1/2 decks or maybe two decks, which would look like one large deck. Also the jefferies tubes, maybe the ones on the Enterprise-C are larger then the ones on the Enterprise-D or B. That too could give you a low deck count.

I love even numbers, so I would go 30, but I have no problem with 31 or even 32.
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Old March 8 2009, 02:39 AM   #18
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Ah, I'd nearly forgot that little issue over at Drex's blog of the Ambassador's 'real' length a few weeks back.
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Old March 8 2009, 05:26 AM   #19
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I'm a little mixed about Jackill's torpedo placement - I always kind of figured it was in the neck. It seems more plausible on FJ's designs because of how the component shapes differ.
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Old March 8 2009, 05:45 AM   #20
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Oh, agreed, I just think it's interesting. IIRC, Sternbach specified them to be on the lower neck, but Greg Jein accidentally left them off the model.
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Old March 8 2009, 05:29 PM   #21
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Wait a minute, folks; if I remember that thread correctly we all began to think of a 478m figure for Ambassador length, but later discussion in that forum link led to a reassessment of 526m after all.

Can someone post a link to that discussion for us to see? I may not be remembering correctly.
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Old March 8 2009, 06:10 PM   #22
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I'm a little mixed about Jackill's torpedo placement - I always kind of figured it was in the neck. It seems more plausible on FJ's designs because of how the component shapes differ.
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Oh, agreed, I just think it's interesting. IIRC, Sternbach specified them to be on the lower neck, but Greg Jein accidentally left them off the model.
Right. I guess I should move the forward torp launcher in my figure up a couple of decks but not high enough to be aming at the sensor dome.

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Ah, I'd nearly forgot that little issue over at Drex's blog of the Ambassador's 'real' length a few weeks back.

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Wait a minute, folks; if I remember that thread correctly we all began to think of a 478m figure for Ambassador length, but later discussion in that forum link led to a reassessment of 526m after all.

Can someone post a link to that discussion for us to see? I may not be remembering correctly.
Here's the thread where Rick Sternbach gave us a clarification about that story in the Drex Files article regarding the length of the Ambassasor class.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=82068

Apparently, we should hold off on that for now and stay with 526 meters.
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Old March 8 2009, 06:30 PM   #23
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Thanks for the link, Bill. Still working on the other stuff.
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Old March 8 2009, 08:15 PM   #24
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I'm a little mixed about Jackill's torpedo placement - I always kind of figured it was in the neck. It seems more plausible on FJ's designs because of how the component shapes differ.
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Oh, agreed, I just think it's interesting. IIRC, Sternbach specified them to be on the lower neck, but Greg Jein accidentally left them off the model.
Right. I guess I should move the forward torp launcher in my figure up a couple of decks but not high enough to be aming at the sensor dome.
I would leave it at the very lowest point on the neck, personally, approximately where the D had hers. The AMT model kit had little 'niblets' there that I think worked fine for me.
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Old March 9 2009, 04:39 AM   #25
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Well I think that people should stick with Rick Sternbach version. He was the one who worked on the design of the ship..I think he knows best!
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Old March 9 2009, 04:47 AM   #26
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Agreed. I think he meant for them to be at the base of the neck anyway, based on earlier sketches, right?
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Old March 9 2009, 07:18 AM   #27
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Okay, you guys know more about this than I. By earlier sketches, I guess you mean the ones in the recent article in the Drex Files that had that business about changing the dimensions.

In that drawing, at least, Rick Sternbach's drawing has a pointer to a torp launcher pretty much where I have put in my cutaway rather than up in the neck. I do recall comments in past weeks about moving it up, but I don't really remember the source.

Anyway, the article has some beautiful pictures and interesting background info, and includes those early sketches.

Here's the link:
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/...torial-deluxe/
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Old March 9 2009, 08:04 AM   #28
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This drawing?

http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dec-2.gif

The actual model doesn't have a torp launcher muzzle anywhere, of course - but there's a beauty shot of the ship where the base of the neck features very bright white lights where there is no window. This could be argued to be the launcher with the covers slid back for action.

Who knows, perhaps the whole ribbed forward edge of the neck is one big rolling door, optionally revealing only the lowermost launcher, or then two, or three, or then all six of them vertically stacked?

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Old March 9 2009, 10:21 AM   #29
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Please fix the link, Timo.
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Old March 9 2009, 10:47 AM   #30
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If you copy link location, it works. And for the record, LCARS, I think you have them in the right place.
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