Terminator-216 "SMWWSMS" - Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>

[Ryan8bit]

hyzmarca wrote:

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I doubt the military would want an ethical machine in control of their weapons. The probability of it deciding not to launch when ordered to on ethical grounds would be far too high. Respect for life and the responsibility to vaporize millions without hesitation when ordered to do so don't mix very well.

That is assuming that humans would no longer have control over their infrastructure. Any AI is going to have some default programming that implies not hurting anyone, and taking a backseat to human command. Skynet was originally established as a method of defense, not of aggressive warfare. That's just what it became accidentally.

It's a lot easier to believe in an ethical computer becoming a government program trusted to run everything, than an emotional child-like computer becoming the same program.

[Guy Gardener]

The military's need to have ethical killing machines is inversely proportionate to how batshit their president is.

Checks and balances.

There were 8 years standing when America was one sex related heart attack away from having a President hell bent on a mad crusade for manbearpig.

[nx1701g]

HappyDayRiot wrote:

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That's putting it mildly.

I am incredibly excited now - and I enjoyed Some Must Watch... a lot. It benefits from a second viewing once you realise what's real and what's not.

It seems that we're getting the death sooner than anticipated.

Riley.

[Tim]

nx1701g wrote:

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It seems that we're getting the death sooner than anticipated.

Riley.

Good!

[hyzmarca]

Ryan8bit wrote:

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That is assuming that humans would no longer have control over their infrastructure. Any AI is going to have some default programming that implies not hurting anyone, and taking a backseat to human command. Skynet was originally established as a method of defense, not of aggressive warfare. That's just what it became accidentally.

It's a lot easier to believe in an ethical computer becoming a government program trusted to run everything, than an emotional child-like computer becoming the same program.

The point of automating nuclear missiles is defense through MAD. You need a system that will launch everything even if the human leadership and infrastructure is destroyed. To paraphrase Dr. Strangelove, A doomsday weapon isn't much of a deterrent if there is a way to stop it.

What they'd want is an AI that obeys the rules slavishly "If Russia attacks, launch all of the nukes at their predefined targets". It's the simplest and best defense. The Russians won't attack if they know that it is impossible to avoid being nuked in retaliation.

[Brent]

nx1701g wrote:

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It seems that we're getting the death sooner than anticipated.

Riley.

yayayayayayayayayayyayya

[nx1701g]

hyzmarca wrote:

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The point of automating nuclear missiles is defense through MAD. You need a system that will launch everything even if the human leadership and infrastructure is destroyed. To paraphrase Dr. Strangelove, A doomsday weapon isn't much of a deterrent if there is a way to stop it.

What they'd want is an AI that obeys the rules slavishly "If Russia attacks, launch all of the nukes at their predefined targets". It's the simplest and best defense. The Russians won't attack if they know that it is impossible to avoid being nuked in retaliation.

I was reading online that a new computer system called Deep Waters will activate in 2011 that will run nuclear war simulations. The scary part is it'll come online roughly at the same time as Skynet in TSCC (April 21, 2011)

[Brent]

and very close to the mythical year 2012 when the world is supposed to end, or aliens invade, or something

[Guy Gardener]

The Myan calendar concludes. The Smoking Man in the last episode of the X-Files told Mulder and Skully that it was an notifiable date to be watchful for. Fear spiraled from there.

[hyzmarca]

The dragons wake up in 2012. One of them is going to give a series of interviews and eventually get his own talk show.

[nx1701g]

^ I could make a REALLY bad joke right now but I'm going to be a good boy...

[Sakrysta]

HappyDayRiot wrote:

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I enjoyed Some Must Watch... a lot. It benefits from a second viewing once you realise what's real and what's not.

I agree. I still think it was unnecessarily confusing, but once I knew what was dream and what was real, the dream got a lot more interesting, and I paid more attention to the reality.

I would have been mad to see Riley die earlier than this. I know a lot of people didn't like her character, but I did. If they had killed her before fleshing out her character into what it is now, the death would have just felt like they were getting rid of an upopular character. Now at least, if she dies, her death can have much more story purpose.

[nx1701g]

I've come to find that the show normally does get A LOT better on the second viewing of an episode.