UFP Anthem

Rush Limborg · March 3 2009, 11:31 PM

I posted this in "Captain's Lounge", but no one picked it up.

OKAY...considering the few lines of music we heard of the UFP Anthem (in "Take Me Out To The Holosuite" (DS9)), what say we all try to write lyrics to the song?

Make it stirring. Make it inspiring. Make it...patriotic!

Herkimer Jitty · March 3 2009, 11:48 PM

It just so happens that I have the original version of the lyrics as written by Jonathan Archer:

Among the stars
We all join hands
Brothers in harmony
Unlike those fucking Vulcans

Then it goes on about how aliens suck for a while. Talk about a faux pas.

Nerroth · March 4 2009, 12:06 AM

Well, just imagine what the 'other' Archer would have written.

But then, if the Imperial anthem is this, it would need no lyrics!

Nerys Ghemor · March 4 2009, 06:56 AM

Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT...

(Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.)

nx1701g · March 4 2009, 07:12 AM

^ I don't think that it has words either.

unusualsuspex · July 12 2009, 09:59 PM

I must admit, I wrote a set of words to include in a forthcoming fanfic on the grounds that an anthem without words is generally meaningless (IMHO) but anyhoo:

Verse 1

Lift up your voices, Loud and strong,
Banish injustice, Conquer all wrongs,
Join with our bretheren from star to star,
United we stand the Federation

Verse 2

Hope and freedom, free from strife,
Cherish equality, in every life,
Striving in fellowship, heed now these words,
In peace we will thrive, the Federation.

Howzat??

Nerys Ghemor · July 12 2009, 10:05 PM

Kumbaaaayaaaaaah....

Thor Damar · July 12 2009, 10:11 PM

Nerys Ghemor wrote:

Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT...

(Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.)

Agreed with this(are not all anthems nationalistic anyway

) for the very good reason that the Cardassian interstellar anthem, 'Cardassia forever' would have lyrics just for the simple reason that Cardassians love to talk!

'sides you don't need to apologise for your cynicism, it's expected from a citizen of Cardassia

Sci · July 12 2009, 10:13 PM

I think it unlikely that the Federation Anthem has any lyrics. Whose language would it be in? English, Vulcan, Andorian, Tellarite, Mandarin, Spanish?

nx1701g · July 12 2009, 11:14 PM

^ Federation standard

Caretaker · July 12 2009, 11:40 PM

Hey, the Colonial Anthem (from Battlestar Galactica) didn't have lyrics - and all of those people are human. So not having lyrics is not out of the question for the Federation.

CorporalClegg · July 12 2009, 11:51 PM

Herkimer Jitty wrote:

It just so happens that I have the original version of the lyrics as written by Jonathan Archer:

Among the stars
We all join hands
Brothers in harmony
Unlike those fucking Vulcans

Then it goes on about how aliens suck for a while. Talk about a faux pas.

That was awesome. You earned a cookie.

Mr. Laser Beam · July 13 2009, 12:30 AM

'Unlike those fucking Vulcans'...

Nerroth: The Terran Empire's national anthem would probably be this.

Deranged Nasat · July 13 2009, 12:48 AM

Rush Limborg wrote:

I posted this in "Captain's Lounge", but no one picked it up.

OKAY...considering the few lines of music we heard of the UFP Anthem (in "Take Me Out To The Holosuite" (DS9)), what say we all try to write lyrics to the song?

Make it stirring. Make it inspiring. Make it...patriotic!

Or matriotic, depending on the traditions of your world and its early cultures

. Even a discussion of what the lyrics should imply might run aground upon 150 different cultural perceptions, regardless of the common cause and beliefs that unite them in the Federation.

What if, say, a large number of Tellarites have a religious objection to use of the word "unity" in an official anthem (implies one voice where many, competing arguments must be heard) but Efrosians require it's presence in any song conveying social belief systems (or else it fails to tie each individual's song into the whole and implies chaos?). What if Deltans decide sex should be mentioned and Arbazan object most strongly? What if putting words to music in general is taboo to Saurians yet mandatory to Denobulans?

We could go on for days.

Sci · July 13 2009, 12:57 AM

nx1701g wrote:

^ Federation standard

Hm. "Federation Standard" sounds good for starship hulls and the like, but why would the UFP put something that's supposed to be inspirational to all of its citizens into a language they do not share?

Shouldn't the Anthem be the most inclusive musical composition possible -- and therefore be on that either lacks official lyrics, or which has official lyrics in every single Federation language?

And it's not like national anthems have to have lyrics. "La Marcha Real" does not, nor does "Državna himna Bosne i Hercegovine" (Bosnia and Herzegovina), nor does the Anthem of Europe.

March 3 2009, 11:31 PM	#1
Rush Limborg Vice Admiral Location: The EIB Network	UFP Anthem I posted this in "Captain's Lounge", but no one picked it up. OKAY...considering the few lines of music we heard of the UFP Anthem (in "Take Me Out To The Holosuite" (DS9)), what say we all try to write lyrics to the song? Make it stirring. Make it inspiring. Make it...patriotic! __________________ "I have been wounded but not yet slain. I shall lie here and bleed awhile. Then I shall rise and fight again." "Forget it, Jake...it's Chinatown."

March 3 2009, 11:48 PM	#2
Herkimer Jitty Rear Admiral Location: Herkimer Jitty	Re: UFP Anthem It just so happens that I have the original version of the lyrics as written by Jonathan Archer: Among the stars We all join hands Brothers in harmony Unlike those fucking Vulcans Then it goes on about how aliens suck for a while. Talk about a faux pas. __________________ Fans are like space heaters. All we have to offer is hot air.

March 4 2009, 12:06 AM	#3
Nerroth Fleet Captain Location: Ontario, Canada	Re: UFP Anthem Well, just imagine what the 'other' Archer would have written. But then, if the Imperial anthem is this, it would need no lyrics! __________________ You think you know a story, but you only know how it ends. To get to the heart of the story, you have to go back to the beginning. ---------------------- The Star Fleet Universe: ST: TOS' other legacy.

March 4 2009, 06:56 AM	#4
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: UFP Anthem Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT... (Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.) __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

March 4 2009, 07:12 AM	#5
nx1701g Admiral Location: Aboard the Executor...	Re: UFP Anthem ^ I don't think that it has words either. __________________ Star Trek: The Continuing Voyages RPG - Recruiting New Players! The Terminator Chronicles - The Sarah Connor Chronicles Continue! Not Dead Yet.

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July 12 2009, 09:59 PM	#6
unusualsuspex Captain Location: Norfolk UK	Re: UFP Anthem I must admit, I wrote a set of words to include in a forthcoming fanfic on the grounds that an anthem without words is generally meaningless (IMHO) but anyhoo: Verse 1 Lift up your voices, Loud and strong, Banish injustice, Conquer all wrongs, Join with our bretheren from star to star, United we stand the Federation Verse 2 Hope and freedom, free from strife, Cherish equality, in every life, Striving in fellowship, heed now these words, In peace we will thrive, the Federation. Howzat??

July 12 2009, 10:05 PM	#7
Nerys Ghemor Vice Admiral Location: Cardăsa Terăm--Nerys Ghemor	Re: UFP Anthem Kumbaaaayaaaaaah.... __________________ Are you a Cardassian fan, citizen? Prove your loyalty--check out my fanfic universe, Star Trek: Sigils and Unions. Or keep the faith on my AU Cardassia, Sigils and Unions: Catacombs of Oralius!

July 12 2009, 10:13 PM	#9
Sci Admiral Location: The Red Flag: May Day 2013	Re: UFP Anthem I think it unlikely that the Federation Anthem has any lyrics. Whose language would it be in? English, Vulcan, Andorian, Tellarite, Mandarin, Spanish? __________________ This dream must end, this world must know: We all depend on the beast below.

July 12 2009, 11:14 PM	#10
nx1701g Admiral Location: Aboard the Executor...	Re: UFP Anthem ^ Federation standard __________________ Star Trek: The Continuing Voyages RPG - Recruiting New Players! The Terminator Chronicles - The Sarah Connor Chronicles Continue! Not Dead Yet.

July 12 2009, 11:40 PM	#11
Caretaker Commodore Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA	Re: UFP Anthem Hey, the Colonial Anthem (from Battlestar Galactica) didn't have lyrics - and all of those people are human. So not having lyrics is not out of the question for the Federation. __________________ Watch the I've Got Munchies podcast.

July 13 2009, 12:30 AM	#13
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: UFP Anthem 'Unlike those fucking Vulcans'... Nerroth: The Terran Empire's national anthem would probably be this. __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.