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Old February 12 2009, 11:31 PM   #331
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Re: Battlestar Galactica 4x14: "Blood on the Scales"

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Well he was certainly pro the death penalty and was pro secret tribunals as seen in "Collaborators" and that leans more towards a Bush side of thinking.
Yeah, because Communist governments have never held secret trials or caused thousands of people to disappear. Ever heard of China's execution busses?
Che' (That pop icon) comes to mind as well...

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Old February 13 2009, 02:17 AM   #332
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Che' (That pop icon) comes to mind as well...
Oh, HELL yeah.
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Old February 13 2009, 02:28 AM   #333
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Old February 13 2009, 04:31 AM   #334
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That was great! And good riddance to Gaeta - but Zarek should just have been shot in the face out of hand, or quietly disappeared- unlike Gaeta he's not military so shouldn't qualify for courtmartial and the firing squad. It gives him too much honour.

Death by Firing Squad is simply more dramatic.




Still wish Zarek had belted that out. I have to the writer credit for going for the ironic 'It stopped' though.
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Old February 13 2009, 05:10 AM   #335
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Well he was certainly pro the death penalty and was pro secret tribunals as seen in "Collaborators" and that leans more towards a Bush side of thinking.
Yeah, because Communist governments have never held secret trials or caused thousands of people to disappear. Ever heard of China's execution busses?
Yes but China is a terrible example. It's a dictatorship more than anything else, certainly not a communict country.
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Old February 13 2009, 06:16 AM   #336
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Um. They self-identify as Communist. They worked with Stalin's Comintern. Mao *led* a Communist revolution. Have you read "Mao"?

Have you ever seen a Communist state that *wasn't* a dictatorship? It goes hand-in-hand with how they work.
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Old February 13 2009, 11:34 AM   #337
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That was great! And good riddance to Gaeta - but Zarek should just have been shot in the face out of hand, or quietly disappeared- unlike Gaeta he's not military so shouldn't qualify for courtmartial and the firing squad. It gives him too much honour.
I for one am not convinced that Roslin or Adama cared about the legality of killing Zarek. I doubt that he or Gaeta got a trial -- they were probably both just sentenced to death by Adama after the coup failed.
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That was great! And good riddance to Gaeta - but Zarek should just have been shot in the face out of hand, or quietly disappeared- unlike Gaeta he's not military so shouldn't qualify for courtmartial and the firing squad. It gives him too much honour.
I for one am not convinced that Roslin or Adama cared about the legality of killing Zarek. I doubt that he or Gaeta got a trial -- they were probably both just sentenced to death by Adama after the coup failed.
Adama probably used the same rules that Cain did when trying Helo and Tyrol.
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That was great! And good riddance to Gaeta - but Zarek should just have been shot in the face out of hand, or quietly disappeared- unlike Gaeta he's not military so shouldn't qualify for courtmartial and the firing squad. It gives him too much honour.
I for one am not convinced that Roslin or Adama cared about the legality of killing Zarek. I doubt that he or Gaeta got a trial -- they were probably both just sentenced to death by Adama after the coup failed.
Adama probably used the same rules that Cain did when trying Helo and Tyrol.
Yeah -- bullshit rules.
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Old February 14 2009, 04:39 PM   #340
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The best parts were Adama and Roslin. Both of them were badasses in this episode.
"No...not now...not ever....I'm coming for all of you!!!"

Gave me chills...
Yeah, that was one of the best parts.
Heck yeah. Just watched it again, and right after that when Admiral Gravitas just had the posse forming around him when he was walking to the bridge, it was awesome.
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Old February 14 2009, 04:52 PM   #341
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Um. They self-identify as Communist. They worked with Stalin's Comintern. Mao *led* a Communist revolution. Have you read "Mao"?

Have you ever seen a Communist state that *wasn't* a dictatorship? It goes hand-in-hand with how they work.
They can call themselves whatever they want but there is a difference between theory and practice. Communism in theory is not necessarily a dictatorship.
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Old February 15 2009, 02:06 AM   #342
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Excellent

Seriously my only complaint is it went by so fast. It seems that in the end Zarek is truly a villan while Gaeta is just very misguided and miserable. I hope they keep killing off characters at this rate to keep things interesting!

It's been great to see these previous background characters get the focus in Season 4.5 so far. Dualla, Gaeta and Zarek have all come to the forefront and had their stories wrapped up or just ended. I like that.

Seeing Kelly, Gage, the quorum, Narcho, Connor, Laird, Seelix, Racetrack, Jaffee, Skulls, Vereem, etc really helped to put this episode over the top too. Having these secondary "background" characters helps propel BSG way ahead of shows like Voyager since it gives things a sense of realism seeing the same people over instead of random pilots and marines.

On another note the crack in the ship is clearly foreshadowing something to come. Awesome to see the ship fall apart. I only hope it goes down fighting like Pegasus!
This episode for me was OFF THE CHARTS!!!!! Since Excellent was the highest rating, that's what I gave it. Comparing this series to Voyager is natural but superficial. The ironic thing for me is that I loved Voyager so much that it is the only series in creation that I own the DVD's of. Yes, it was very, very flawed as has been discussed to death elsewhere, but two things make it watchable in rerun: the fact that it was episodic and not a serial and the character development. I admit to the irony because being episodic was a weakness for Voyager in first run.

Much as BSG is a far better executed show and has a far more realistic verisimilitude, I have no desire to watch it again. Because of how it was drawn out, I forgot or never retained a lot of the details of the series, especially to the background characters, and I do not care. I just let it wash over me as it unfolds but I do not have an emotional connection to the characters the way I did with the Voyagers.
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