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Old February 5 2009, 07:32 PM   #91
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Re: Lost 5x04: "The Little Prince"

Below average.

Much as I like Jin/Sun, his return is kind of lame.

I was unfortunately thinking "really bad case of jet lag" as a joke aimed at the show---and then Faraday actually said it.

And, actually, nothing really happened. The revelations that Kate is weepy and Ben is manipulative didn't wow me.
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Old February 6 2009, 12:52 AM   #92
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So if the longer you were on the island the sooner the nose bleeds and negative side-effects happen then I wonder about the people on the freighter last season. Like Miloswki(?) the radio operator. Was he also from the island? All that same stuff happened to him when he got close to the island.
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Old February 6 2009, 01:26 AM   #93
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Re: Lost 5x04: "The Little Prince"

While I normally begin an episode being neutral and consider it average until something happens in the episode to make me re-rate it, I devised a rule in mid season one that any Kate episode starts out as poor and has to work its way up. Thus this episode gets an average score from me.

The Kate story was completely pointless, Ben was utilised badly, and Jin encountering Rousseau was not worthy of a cliffhanger since it was obvious to everyone that it was Rousseau the moment she appeared on screen.

That being said, the on-island story was interesting and I liked the fact that they were hinting about the future when they got to the camp. The shot of light from the hatch also helped this episode out because Deus Ex Machina was such an awesome episode that anything which references it is automatically given a few extra points.

Does anyone else think it would be funny if it turns out that it was Sawyer who drank all the beer, making his angry look at finding all the empty cans ironic?
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Old February 6 2009, 01:45 AM   #94
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Re: Lost 5x04: "The Little Prince"

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Like Miloswki(?) the radio operator. Was he also from the island? All that same stuff happened to him when he got close to the island.
While it might have been a similar cause, his traveling was solely with his consciousness. Our Losties are physically moving in time (or the Island is).

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Jin encountering Rousseau was not worthy of a cliffhanger since it was obvious to everyone that it was Rousseau the moment she appeared on screen.
As soon as Locke said there was wreckage on the beach we knew it was going to be her. So yeah, it really wasn't a cliffhanger but it was great to see Jin's expression and you could see she noticed it as well. That was neat.
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Old February 6 2009, 01:45 AM   #95
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So if the longer you were on the island the sooner the nose bleeds and negative side-effects happen then I wonder about the people on the freighter last season. Like Miloswki(?) the radio operator. Was he also from the island? All that same stuff happened to him when he got close to the island.
That seemed to be a separate issue (they gave a theory for that, iirc, Desmond's problems had to do with the hatch).
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Old February 6 2009, 01:59 AM   #96
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The Season Four problem of people being mentally unstuck in time and needing to find their constant was a problem only related to passing through the Island's outer shield barrier. The Season Five problem of our characters physically jumping around in time is because of the Donkey Wheeling, and is a separate (though doubtlessly somehow connected) issue.
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Old February 6 2009, 02:02 AM   #97
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Desmond is en route to LA. Given that he has a sail boat he will most likely dock in the very same marina as the group of Ben, Sun, Aaron, Kate, Jack are gathered explaining how they'd cross paths. Or will they cross paths after they leave dock and they are en route. Didn't see them meeting up at marina but makes so much sense for this show. Doesn't feel contrived but is plausible.
Hard to imagine a boat sailing from England to Los Angeles after sailing through the Panama Canal (or going around the Horn) in such a short time.
Who's to say Desmond didn't get his vision/memory of Daniel weeks (or even months) before the current events of the Oceanic 6 timeline? That would give him plenty of time to get to LA.
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Old February 6 2009, 02:11 AM   #98
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That's possible (more than a bit confusing since I figured they wouldn't want to complicate keeping track of time more than they already do, but possible). Nothing would contradict that, so maybe that's what they'll do.

Either that or he'll just hop on a damn plane and be there next episode.
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Old February 6 2009, 02:38 AM   #99
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Ben hiring the lawyer to get Aaron was a surprise, but that was it.
I thought of that a while ago, when they released the clip via email. though I wrongly assumed it was a ploy by Jack as he knew the truth behind it all. Foolish though as its way more Bens thing.

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Did we know this? Does this mean the time-flashes are going to last for three years on the Island, or just that when things get settled the 06 will be three years in the future as far as Sawyer et al are concerned?
I'm thinking they'll travel to the 'current' time frame and it'll all stop, maybe thats where the whole 70 hour window comes into play - in 70 hours the timelines will converge and the two groups will be at the same point.

I'm hoping startrekwatcher is right and the part we're seen with Faraday in the past is part of the time travel, though he'd need to be a damn good liar to sneak his way in and interact with people who'd never seen him before. If it were me I'd avoid being underground though as the Island could transport to a point where theres no underground cavern which means he'd be stuck in rock... unless the caverns always been there - which would make sense as thats where the wheel is. It just depends who put that there and when. I thought it might have belonged to the Black Rock byt he look of it. But who knows.

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So if the longer you were on the island the sooner the nose bleeds and negative side-effects happen then I wonder about the people on the freighter last season. Like Miloswki(?) the radio operator. Was he also from the island? All that same stuff happened to him when he got close to the island.
That was already explained, if I recall, with Desmonds 'quantum leaps'. Unless you enter the Islands perimeter without going a specific route, you suffer the effects of time travel. The radio op had been travelling just as Desmond had, but Desmond used Penny as his constant and survived. The Radio op didn't have that knowledge and died.

Though I might remember it wrong. Desmond first started travelling and having the Final Destination type visions after the hatch exploded, then somethign went wrong on the route home... so I think my memory may be off as Sayid and Frank never travelled. Might be something more to it but.. definatly a similar but seperate issue.

saying that - definatly is not a word I can say with confidence about Lost

Anyway... general thoughts...

I was reminded of the earlier seasons shispers in the jungle and am now wondering if thats related to the time travel.

I'm also curious to see whats going on with the future camp, who the other boat belongs to, if its Jacks, why they're travelling physically instead of previously seen conciousness, if that even comes up and what'll happen when the timelines converge - though thats an assumption.

I'm curious to see the bomb in the past come back into play, the logic behind Faraday in the past, more about the woman working with Ben/sorting out Desmond when he quantum leaped a while ago and a few other things.

The Claire/Christian thing seems to be out of the equation for now, I'm hoping they go back to that when the timelines are sorted. I'm glad to see Jin back and happy to see Danielle's entry to the Island. Hopefully the travel will fill in more of the blanks in her sixteen years, the truth about her and the others and more tid-bits from Richards camp and Jim robinson.

Plus we know it's likely Miles was born or raised on the Island, though Charlotte spent more time there if she was first. And the possible spoiler on page one seems almost confirmed by that.

It was slower this time round, kind of transitional with hints of whats to come but overall I enjoyed it and can't wait 'till next week I quite like the connection Juliet and Sawyer are building and enjoyed Johns "I needed my pain" line justifying the non-interference in the time lines - which a lot of non-SF fans on other boards seem confused about.

So far this season it's shown me why I enjoy Lost, all the bits and pieces coming together in no particular order. Good stuff for me
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Old February 6 2009, 02:48 AM   #100
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Re: Lost 5x04: "The Little Prince"

I had a thought about Sun. She's become super-vengeful over the last three years. It seems out-of-character and over-the-top. Like something happened in those years that we don't know about yet, something that explains the incongruity of it all.

And I thought about that picture she had of her daughter, still as an infant rather than the near 3-year-old she must be now, how it seems odd that a loving mother that seems to travel a lot wouldn't have recent pictures of her child.

I wonder if maybe her daughter died within her first year of life. Something like that, coupled with the loss of her husband, could push a mild-mannered woman like Sun over the edge and turn her into a avenging angel who could pull the trigger on Ben, and even Jack.
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Old February 6 2009, 04:32 AM   #101
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Re: Lost 5x04: "The Little Prince"

When Ben shows up at the dock and Kate looks startled, is she just reacting to the fact that Jack and Sayid are apparently working with Ben, or is she also just realizing that Ben has gotten off the island? Because I've lost track of who would have found out that Ben made it off the island. Sayid and Sun have certainly known about it for some time, but they might have had reasons not to share it with the others. Did Jack and Hurley not know Ben was off the island until very recently?

Actually, I guess Locke-as-Jeremy Bentham would have probably told all of them, though I guess he also might have had reasons not to give them the full story......though it's not obvious what those reasons would be. Hmmmm......all things considered, I guess Kate most likely already knew.
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Old February 6 2009, 04:46 AM   #102
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Re: Lost 5x04: "The Little Prince"

These Ben rounding up the gang and herding them back to the island episodes have really begun boring me to tears. Locke and Sawyer's travels through time are only mildly better.

The Desmond stuff in the other episodes is much better IMO.
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The Desmond stuff in the other episodes is much better IMO.
I have to agree... I can't say I've seen a Desmond episode I haven't liked.
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Old February 6 2009, 05:03 AM   #104
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In the S4 finale I was convinced that Sun is working undercover for the O6 by allying herself with Widmore. But this episode makes it look like she actually IS betraying them to Widmore just to get revenge on Ben. Of course she'll still be after Widmore after that since he actually sent the mercs that did the deed.
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Old February 6 2009, 06:10 AM   #105
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- Ben retaining Dan Norton is pretty cool, I just don't know what he's driving at. What's the point of taking Aaron away from Kate? They all have to go back, unless there's some weird rules as to how that we're not aware of. Also, Jack has a good point: It's gotta be more than a coincidence that Norton is also Mrs. Littleton's lawyer.
I thought it was pretty obvious when Norton showed up at Kates house that he was sent by Ben, it will be the reason he uses to get her to go back to the island.
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