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Old January 27 2009, 05:55 AM   #61
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Re: Welling: Why no Superman?

^ I think that they selected him because of the look. Welling looked more like Superman back when Smallville began and was a bit more unknown (Ackles had been on Dawson's Creek).
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Old January 27 2009, 06:04 AM   #62
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Eh, I'd say it worked out pretty well for him in the end. Dean is a far more rewarding and challenging character than Smallville's Clark has been or ever will be.
Can't argue with that. Dean admitting that he'd enjoyed torturing the other souls in hell after he finally got off the carving rack? Wowza. Don't think Welling would have quite been up to that, but he has more of a Superman/Clark Kent "look," I grant you that.
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Old January 27 2009, 06:59 AM   #63
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Re: Welling: Why no Superman?

A few years ago, when I was already saying a lot of the things being said in this thread, I started watching the show with a different mindset.
It takes place in an alternate universe. One where Superman as we have known him does not exist. Sort of the modern day Bizarro World. In this case, it could be called Angst World.
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Old January 27 2009, 07:00 AM   #64
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A few years ago, when I was already saying a lot of the things being said in this thread, I started watching the show with a different mindset.
It takes place in an alternate universe. One where Superman as we have known him does not exist. Sort of the modern day Bizarro World. In this case, it could be called Angst World.
Better known as The WB Universe.
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Old January 27 2009, 07:25 AM   #65
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Re: Welling: Why no Superman?

Tom Welling is a hard person to figure out.

Beyond everything already said about his reluctance to play Superman he is a recluse. He rarely gives interviews or makes appearances related to the show. When there are charity events with the cast he is usually the one no-show.
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Old January 27 2009, 01:37 PM   #66
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That Welling is a control freak when it comes to his wardrobe but is a total yes man when it comes to all the crappy scripts says it all.
Welling is the same as 99% of all actors, he takes the advice of his agent. Actors act, they don't generally know shit managing careers or quality of scripts, so they hire professionals.

If the directors had a problem with it they could/would have negotiated with his agent. For example, if they truly felt wearing the suit or glasses would harm his future prospects, then pay him a significant bonus to compensate. Or completely refute the theory with evidence. But they just accepted it because that wasn't where they were going with the show anyway.
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Old January 28 2009, 01:12 AM   #67
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Welling is the same as 99% of all actors, he takes the advice of his agent. Actors act, they don't generally know shit managing careers or quality of scripts, so they hire professionals.
Oh, puh-LEEZE. What a steamy load ...

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Old January 28 2009, 01:17 AM   #68
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Agents know more about script quality than actors?
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Old January 28 2009, 02:23 AM   #69
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Welling is the same as 99% of all actors, he takes the advice of his agent. Actors act, they don't generally know shit managing careers or quality of scripts, so they hire professionals.
Oh, puh-LEEZE. What a steamy load ...

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You know, I'll be the first to say I over simplified that for the sake of brief post.

But maybe you could open up a little and tell me why you think that instead of just mouthing off?

Meanwhile, a very very very tiny percentage of actors have vetos over scripts or are allowed to rewrite their own material. When Welling started out and was signing his contract he wasn't in that league. He's not in that league now. He's not a writer. He may be a good reader, in the sense that he looks into what he's reading and considerers the source material, but we don't know that. A good actor follows direction.

Actors don't manage their own careers when they start out, and very rarely when they are experienced. Welling didn't write his first contract, he didn't write in his vetos, and he had no huge negotiating power. His agent did the work he was paid to do.

The studio and producers of Smallville had all the power to refuse Welling and his agent when they wanted that stipulation, the fact is they were going that direction anyway. If they weren't then they wouldn't have agreed.

If you think that's a pile of steaming shit, you're welcome to explain why.
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Old January 28 2009, 06:32 PM   #70
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I'm commenting on your blanket comment about actors. NOT the Welling situation.

And since you proposed the comment, you please give specific examples of these 99% brain-dead actors of which you speak. (And tabloids don't count as reference materials)

But I've got to tell you, you seem way too smart to buy into the lazy perception that actors are stupid and don't know anything about issues.

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