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Old January 18 2009, 12:57 AM   #436
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Re: 24: Day 7 8:00AM - 12:00 PM - Discussion and Spoilers

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Why are some people so hellbent on political parties on 24 when party affiliation has nothing to do with the characters (every administration is exactly the same on this show) and David Palmer's party was a throwaway line in season one?
To connect the show with (a form of) reality.

Why are some people so hell-bent on figuring out where things are located on a fictional starship? The limitations of the abilities of superheroes? How much Dr. House's malpractice insurance costs?

People want to know the details behind the "reality" inside the shows they watch.
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Old January 18 2009, 01:20 AM   #437
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So does David Palmer okaying for someone to blow Ryan Chappelle's brains out fall into your definition of his political party?
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Old January 18 2009, 01:21 AM   #438
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So does David Palmer okaying for someone to blow Ryan Chappelle's brains out fall into your definition of his political party?
Not really.
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Old January 18 2009, 01:26 AM   #439
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It's best not to overthink this stuff because the 24 writers clearly don't. Since no 24 president has made it through a full two terms (hell, no one's lasted one full term without dying, being arrested, going into a coma, or having the VP conspire to 25th amendment him), it's pretty easy to just go back and forth between parties.

24 has a war-mongering Democrat (Daniels) and a compassionate-for-overseas-people Republican (Taylor). That's significantly more likely than having Daniels being a different party on Wayne Palmer's ticket or having a sitting president ousted in the primaries by his own party.

Like I said, it doesn't matter. Their administrations all have moles and backstabbers and cave easily to terrorist demands.
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But people still need logic and realistic base to better idtentify and "connect" with the fictional world.

And because of that we've the question on what party Taylor belongs to.

So either she's one out-of-step and a-typical Republican (which is possible as you pointed out Daniels was an a-typical Democrat) "something" happened to allow for the Democratic Taylor to run (either the Democrats not choosing to keep Daniels on their ticket -either because he's Independant or his policies don't line up with their agenda) or it could be Taylor is part of some third-party (be it an Independant herself or some other third party.)

Really, all of this is no more than the kind of talking and battling that goes on every other minutia people on this forum fight over.
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Old January 18 2009, 09:08 AM   #441
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It's just interesting to try to place Taylor into the political spectrum. But her insistence on worrying about genocide in Sassafrassia places her squarely in the Unicorns & Rainbows Party because no Dem or Pub would ever allow themselves to devote so much energy to something that will yield no worthwhile outcome for them on a pragmatic level.

This premise is wholly a Hollywood invention, dreamt up by people who have no direct experience with the exercise of political power. The insane admirals of Starfleet are more convincing political figures than Miz Prez Taylor.
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It's just interesting to try to place Taylor into the political spectrum. But her insistence on worrying about genocide in Sassafrassia places her squarely in the Unicorns & Rainbows Party because no Dem or Pub would ever allow themselves to devote so much energy to something that will yield no worthwhile outcome for them on a pragmatic level.

This premise is wholly a Hollywood invention, dreamt up by people who have no direct experience with the exercise of political power. The insane admirals of Starfleet are more convincing political figures than Miz Prez Taylor.
Pretty true, but again, missions of purely humanitarian aid leans a bit more left than it does right. But, again, it's possible she's part of a third party.
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I finally watched this last night. I don't know if I'm able to disregard all the geographic inaccuracies regarding DC.
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I finally watched this last night. I don't know if I'm able to disregard all the geographic inaccuracies regarding DC.
Pretty par for the course with this series.
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