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Old January 14 2009, 11:50 AM   #16
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yeah, but with the exception (to start with) of Britain, GI Joe toys have been sold around the world as GI Joe. and in Britain after they switched from 'Action Force International Heroes' to GI Joe, tehy were still repackaging the toys with altered file cards giving the characters British birth places and backgrounds.
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Old January 14 2009, 05:55 PM   #17
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August? Doesn't say much that they're releasing this movie during the dregs of the summer season.

This'll be the next thing to rape our childhoods after Trek XI.
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Old January 14 2009, 06:11 PM   #18
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Except that Star Trek looks promising. This does not.
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Old January 14 2009, 06:14 PM   #19
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Except that Star Trek looks promising.
Your opinion.
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Old January 14 2009, 06:40 PM   #20
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August? Doesn't say much that they're releasing this movie during the dregs of the summer season.
While this is typically true, apparently the movie company is trying an "experiment." They plan to release this thing "in an attempt to expand the summer blockbuster season." While I don't think the movie will be very good, it does have a hefty budget, and I don't think they're dumping it in no man's land to take a loss. I think they want to open it against weak competition.
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Old January 14 2009, 06:42 PM   #21
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Your opinion.
Yours, too. Despite your apparently bloated view of self-importance.
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Old January 14 2009, 07:54 PM   #22
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Jackson Beck said it best in the toon opening:

[JacksonBeck]"G*I*Joe is the codename for AMERICA'S daring, highly-trained Special Mission Force. It's purpose: to defend human freedom against COBRA, a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world!"[/JacksonBeck]

All you need to know in two simple sentences, and none of this "international" crap.

It won't necessarily make me boycott, but I'm slightly unhappy.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:06 PM   #23
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While I am in agreement over GI Joe being an American team if you want to stay most "pure" to the cartoon, think of the political reality of today. Thanks to various factors (be it media, the government, take your pick) the US armed forces are not viewed very positively in many parts of the world nowadays. If you start going on and on about an "American" military force, it doesn't have the same marketability as an "international" force. I'm just glad that it's being primarily led by Americans, keeping some of that core concept intact.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:20 PM   #24
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WTF happened to my post?! Anyway, I still would like to see this movie, but the whole nonsense about "men and women from different parts of the world" contradicts the concept of G.I. Joe being an all-American team. So what does the G.I. now stand for? Governments International? Gladiators Incorporated?
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Old January 14 2009, 08:31 PM   #25
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While I am in agreement over GI Joe being an American team if you want to stay most "pure" to the cartoon,
Not just the cartoon. I was more a fan of the comic myself, but even the comic was titled "GIJOE: A Real American Hero!" and the writer adhered strictly to that.

think of the political reality of today. Thanks to various factors (be it media, the government, take your pick) the US armed forces are not viewed very positively in many parts of the world nowadays. If you start going on and on about an "American" military force, it doesn't have the same marketability as an "international" force.
Maybe, but the strategic reality today is the same as it has been since the turn of the last century: that the ones whining the loudest about America's military are usually the same ones who beg for its help every twenty years or so. Under those circumstances, I don't care if an all-american GIJOE is unmarketable in Belgium. Let Belgium get it's own special mission force. (A Real Belgian Hero!) Let Russia make an Oktober Guard movie. Better yet, if the force has to be international or our distinguished allies won't bite, there's a perfectly good alternative. Make a Rainbow Six movie! GIJOE is not Rainbow!

I'm just glad that it's being primarily led by Americans, keeping some of that core concept intact.
Which is one reason why I'm not completely abandoning it.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:35 PM   #26
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If this had been the property of another country -- Japan, England, Russia, etc. -- and they globalized the concept for a movie, there would be a lot of people going stark raving mad about the change ruining the purity and integrity of the project.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:42 PM   #27
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If this had been the property of another country -- Japan, England, Russia, etc. -- and they globalized the concept for a movie, there would be a lot of people going stark raving mad about the change ruining the purity and integrity of the project.
Of course. There's patriotism tied up in this, and no matter how much "enlightened" people try, you are never going to completely suppress patriotism.
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Old January 14 2009, 08:49 PM   #28
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If this had been the property of another country -- Japan, England, Russia, etc. -- and they globalized the concept for a movie, there would be a lot of people going stark raving mad about the change ruining the purity and integrity of the project.
That happens all the time. Japanese and British media products are remade with American actors, in an American setting, in order to play to domestic audiences. This is an American concept that been globalized to play internationally. It is a broadening of the concept, and as such a good thing.

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Old January 14 2009, 09:13 PM   #29
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If this had been the property of another country -- Japan, England, Russia, etc. -- and they globalized the concept for a movie, there would be a lot of people going stark raving mad about the change ruining the purity and integrity of the project.
That happens all the time. Japanese and British media products are remade with American actors, in an American setting, in order to play to domestic audiences. This is an American concept that been globalized to play internationally. It is a broadening of the concept, and as such a good thing.

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This isnt exactly the same though. one of the critical aspects of GI Joe is that it is an elite American strike force. That's why it was known as GI Joe Real American Heroes. Its not like The Office where you simply have a show about office workers. Whether they were american or not did not play a role in the concept behind the show. As mentioned up thread, its more like making the the last samurai in The Last Samurai a white dude from America. Yeah, you can do it but it doesnt mean its a good idea.
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Old January 14 2009, 09:18 PM   #30
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Tom Cruise was not the last samurai. The title of the movie referred to Ken Watanabe's character.

This is more along the lines of the 9/11 firefighter statue they were going to make, where the real firefighters depicted were white but some people thought it'd be a great idea to make them multicultural instead.
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