RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,648
Posts: 5,428,404
Members: 24,810
Currently online: 531
Newest member: Damix

TrekToday headlines

Trek Messenger Bag
By: T'Bonz on Sep 18

Star Trek Live In Concert In Australia
By: T'Bonz on Sep 18

IDW Publishing December Trek Comics
By: T'Bonz on Sep 17

September Loot Crate Features Trek Surprise
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

USS Enterprise Miniature Out For Refit
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Star Trek/Planet of the Apes Comic Crossover
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Trek 3 Shooting Next Spring?
By: T'Bonz on Sep 16

Star Trek: Alien Domain Game Announced
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Red Shirt Diaries Episode Three
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15

Made Out Of Mudd Photonovel
By: T'Bonz on Sep 15


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek Fandom > Fan Art

Fan Art Post your Trek fan art here, including hobby models and collectibles.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 10 2009, 05:56 PM   #106
Warped9
Admiral
 
Warped9's Avatar
 
Location: Brockville, Ontario, Canada
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

I did schematics of a reimagined refit many years ago. I've since modified my idea and have some sketches buried somewhere. I'll try to dig them up to share here.
__________________
STAR TREK: 1964-1991, 2013-?
Warped9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2009, 10:19 PM   #107
CuttingEdge100
Commodore
 
CuttingEdge100's Avatar
 
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

ST-One,
What is they do not get?
JJ Abrams didn't understand how ST-Fans wanted the Enterprise to be Re-Imagined.

That there are Trek-Fans who are just to (intellectually) inflexible to accept a new design for the Enterprise?
It's not entirely that the Enterprise is a new design -- it's that most fans do not like the particular characteristics of the new-design.


CuttingEdge100
CuttingEdge100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 01:43 AM   #108
ST-One
Vice Admiral
 
Location: Germany - with UHC since the early 1900s
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

CuttingEdge100 wrote: View Post
ST-One,
What is they do not get?
JJ Abrams didn't understand how ST-Fans wanted the Enterprise to be Re-Imagined.
I'm glad that he and his team don't listen to what we fan-bois want.

CuttingEdge100 wrote: View Post
That there are Trek-Fans who are just to (intellectually) inflexible to accept a new design for the Enterprise?
It's not entirely that the Enterprise is a new design -- it's that most fans do not like the particular characteristics of the new-design.


CuttingEdge100
Most?
Hardly.
ST-One is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 07:30 AM   #109
Captain Robert April
Vice Admiral
 
Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

It's garnered enough of a negative backlash that no model company is ponying up to produce a model kit of the thing. I'll take that as a better indicator of fan reaction than any online poll.
Captain Robert April is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 12:02 PM   #110
darkwing_duck1
Vice Admiral
 
Location: the Unreconstructed South
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

Captain Robert April wrote: View Post
It's garnered enough of a negative backlash that no model company is ponying up to produce a model kit of the thing. I'll take that as a better indicator of fan reaction than any online poll.
To be fair, I have yet to see much more than the usual Playmates/AA stuff that gets put out every so often...no rush to merchandise the film PERIOD, not just the ship.
darkwing_duck1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 01:23 PM   #111
Cary L. Brown
Rear Admiral
 
Location: Austin, Texas
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

darkwing_duck1 wrote: View Post
Captain Robert April wrote: View Post
It's garnered enough of a negative backlash that no model company is ponying up to produce a model kit of the thing. I'll take that as a better indicator of fan reaction than any online poll.
To be fair, I have yet to see much more than the usual Playmates/AA stuff that gets put out every so often...no rush to merchandise the film PERIOD, not just the ship.
Yeah, as much as I dislike the design "improvements," the idea that there's no model planned may only reflect the pathetic state of the model-kit industry these days.

It's sad, really... every time a company comes along and makes cool, popular stuff, they end up going out of business or being purchased by someone else who doesn't put any value on what they do....

... or they only sell their stuff in Japan and Europe, but due to licensing issues can't sell them directly in the US market (see the German "Revenge of the Sith" kits).

Some seriously goofy decisions.

Polar Lights' kits did very well... because (1) they were something NEW (not just a repackaging of something old), (2) were of POPULAR subjects (not something obscure and uninteresting... well, except for the Scorpion), and (3) were high-quality.

At least the most recent purchaser of that property recognizes what they've got, it seems.

The issue with the new film? It's got NEW stuff, and they may well be able to make high-quality stuff. But will it be a popular subject? We don't know... I doubt it, personally, but I'm not cocky enough to say with absolute certainty that it won't turn out that way.

There's also the whole issue of "how long does it take to make a model?" It's not a 1-week turn-around, after all... so it may well be that nobody at the kit manufacturers had even seen the design 'til a few weeks ago (security, all that). And the kit might be in-the-works, but not yet announced, right now.

Possible? Sure...

But I can safely say I, personally, won't be buying a copy if it is.
Cary L. Brown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 01:48 PM   #112
ST-One
Vice Admiral
 
Location: Germany - with UHC since the early 1900s
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

I will.
Both, the Kelvin and the Enterprise.
ST-One is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 05:42 PM   #113
Captain Robert April
Vice Admiral
 
Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

The folks at Round 2 (the current incarnation of PL/AMT) cited negative fan reaction as a reason why they won't be persuing a license.
Captain Robert April is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 08:35 PM   #114
ancient
Vice Admiral
 
ancient's Avatar
 
Location: United States
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

What negative fan reaction? Where'd you read this about the company?

I mean, I'm kinda luke-warm on the new design, but we havn't got more than 2-3 pictures of it that are any good and a few half-second clips of it in action. There seems to be at least as many people who love the new design as hate it, and plenty of people like myself - not in love, but not really complaining too much either.

Besides, they've already made a toy prototype along with the action figures, didn't they? That's not a model, but still, it's something.
__________________
----------------------------
Time Travel was and will be confusing
ancient is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 08:44 PM   #115
Cary L. Brown
Rear Admiral
 
Location: Austin, Texas
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

Captain Robert April wrote: View Post
The folks at Round 2 (the current incarnation of PL/AMT) cited negative fan reaction as a reason why they won't be persuing a license.
Reference, please?
Cary L. Brown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 08:46 PM   #116
Cary L. Brown
Rear Admiral
 
Location: Austin, Texas
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

ST-One wrote: View Post
I will.
Both, the Kelvin and the Enterprise.
The Kelvin, I'd probably buy... I LIKE that ship design!

The "nuEnterprise?" Not-so-much.

Of course, that's just me... and in any case, I think it's a fair bet that you'll end up seeing a half-dozen versions of the "nuEnterprise" on this site within six months:

www.federationmodels.com
Cary L. Brown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 09:13 PM   #117
Captain Robert April
Vice Admiral
 
Location: In selfless service to fandom, on the road to becoming a Star Trek trivia god...
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

My source is a discussion on hobbytalk.com, where a poster passed on the answer he'd gotten when he asked someone at Round 2 about it.

On a side note, Round 2 has the absolutely best customer service response I've ever seen, in any industry.
Captain Robert April is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11 2009, 11:55 PM   #118
SphinxR
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

CuttingEdge100 wrote: View Post
I know most members are perfectly happy with the Constitution Class Refit design, but "most" doesn't mean "all"...

So I ask, if you could re-imagine the Constitution-Class design's exterior/interior design and details to virtually any degree that you want, how would you go about it?


CuttingEdge100
I'm perfectly happy with Gabriel Koerner's design, which is what the movie ripped off, after the fanboys on this and other forums trashed for years. Com'on, can't you see that similarities? When I first saw the "New" ship, I thought of Gabe's version.
SphinxR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 14 2009, 04:06 AM   #119
CuttingEdge100
Commodore
 
CuttingEdge100's Avatar
 
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

SphinxR,

There is an extraordinary resemblance
CuttingEdge100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 14 2009, 08:48 PM   #120
Ryan Thomas Riddle
Rear Admiral
 
Ryan Thomas Riddle's Avatar
 
Location: The Bay Area
View Ryan Thomas Riddle's Twitter Profile
Re: If You Could Re-Imagine the Constitution-Class Refit...

Captain Robert April wrote: View Post
My source is a discussion on hobbytalk.com, where a poster passed on the answer he'd gotten when he asked someone at Round 2 about it.

On a side note, Round 2 has the absolutely best customer service response I've ever seen, in any industry.
So third-hand information at best. Certainly not a reliable source.
__________________
A mild-mannered reporter
Ryan Thomas Riddle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:30 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.