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Old January 10 2009, 10:03 PM   #31
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It's a Borg belly button ring.
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Old January 10 2009, 10:25 PM   #32
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It's some sort of inhaler, isn't it? I seem to recall seeing it in a drug ad, only it was purple there.
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Old January 10 2009, 11:43 PM   #33
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^ Yep. My pa has one of em, so it was instant recognition for me.

Dennis, you're gonna be outta luck if everyone's houses are full of inhalers, pepper grinders and barcode scanners :P
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Old January 11 2009, 02:23 AM   #34
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^ Yep. My pa has one of em, so it was instant recognition for me.

Dennis, you're gonna be outta luck if everyone's houses are full of inhalers, pepper grinders and barcode scanners :P
Which is why I just conducted this little impromptu survey - I liked the look of this thing, but had no idea how common the devices might currently be (I used one about five years ago).

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Old January 11 2009, 03:10 AM   #35
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Throw a few alterations on it and it should pass mostly unrecognized. If you asked everyone on this board if they could recognize what Luke's lightsaber or any number of other 'found' props were made from, you'd probably find people who knew what they were too. Star Wars has tons of recognizable found items in there from women's razors to flash guns to pen caps, etc. etc.
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Old January 11 2009, 03:43 AM   #36
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Throw a few alterations on it and it should pass mostly unrecognized. If you asked everyone on this board if they could recognize what Luke's lightsaber or any number of other 'found' props were made from, you'd probably find people who knew what they were too. Star Wars has tons of recognizable found items in there from women's razors to flash guns to pen caps, etc. etc.
This is true. I guess I'm thinking, rightly or wrongly, that the design dilemma for fan films is different from that for a big Hollywood movie in that a big percentage of our audience may be afficianadoes and other low-budget filmmakers and hobbyists - many of whom become aware of us while we're creating our movies - who pay attention to and hopefully admire the details of props and costumes etc. A lot of them are the same folks or same kind of folks who know that the Jedi communicator in "The Phantom Menace" is a Lady Schick razor but they only represent a tiny fraction of one percent of the people who go to see "Star Wars."

Not many folks beyond the regulars on the Replica Props Forum will recognize a peppermill in "Star Trek."

Or maybe that's not so. I'll give it some more thought.

The image above, BTW, is the inhaler as it was altered for use as a "laser" prop in "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda." I wanted to use a picture of it with different colors and missing the labeling that might make it more easily recognized.
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Old January 11 2009, 04:40 AM   #37
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When it comes to props, generally if you paint something, throw in a few leds, and 'weather' it a bit no one will question it unless they're specifically looking to recreate it or otherwise learn more about it. Some very distinctive things like the Schick razor in Phantom Menace were borderline obvious as an item just about everyone has seen regularly, even daily for some, in their normal lives and yet 99% of the audience never would have noticed it unless someone pointed it out.
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Old January 11 2009, 06:05 AM   #38
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This is true. I guess I'm thinking, rightly or wrongly, that the design dilemma for fan films is different from that for a big Hollywood movie in that a big percentage of our audience may be afficianadoes and other low-budget filmmakers and hobbyists - many of whom become aware of us while we're creating our movies - who pay attention to and hopefully admire the details of props and costumes etc. A lot of them are the same folks or same kind of folks who know that the Jedi communicator in "The Phantom Menace" is a Lady Schick razor but they only represent a tiny fraction of one percent of the people who go to see "Star Wars."

Not many folks beyond the regulars on the Replica Props Forum will recognize a peppermill in "Star Trek."

Or maybe that's not so. I'll give it some more thought.
Sometimes, when it comes to base objects, simpler can be better. If the original item has fewer really unique features, it can be easier to disguise. I think part of the problem with the inhaler is that it's just so darn specific looking.

Compare that with, say, Wah Chang's use of a pencil case for the TOS comms: add a flipgrid and buttons, and it's unrecognizable.

I don't know what this gizmo is going to be, but I'm assuming you need small, hand sized and round, with some kind of ribbing or fillagree? Might I suggest this:

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Old January 11 2009, 06:36 AM   #39
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I grieve with thee, Dennis. How about rapid prototypers? Does anyone on your staff have access to one of these? If so, tap your talented artist friends to design props in 3D and then just print them out and paint them.
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Old January 11 2009, 06:37 AM   #40
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So what is that?
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Old January 11 2009, 06:46 AM   #41
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So what is that?
Can anybody tell?

It's a container for Bubble Tape candy. Fairly easy to find still.
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Old January 11 2009, 10:19 AM   #42
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One place I found great for prop and set greeblies were electronics surplus stores. I found a place in the bay area that's just chock full of old electronics and cases and switches and packing materials of all shapes and sizes. I spent $45 and walked out with two crates of goodies and a small piece of a clean room.
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Old January 11 2009, 12:44 PM   #43
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Just Superglue a Lady Schick Razor to the Inhaler and you've got a perfect... uh, whatever it is.
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Old January 11 2009, 04:04 PM   #44
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Looks like a bubble gum case to me..
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Old January 11 2009, 09:44 PM   #45
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I'll have to look for the bubble gum case - cutting it apart and using some of that ridged edge would help with another prop.
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