Dark Avengers - Your thoughts - Page 2

Captain Craig · January 9 2009, 05:00 PM

CYOTI says up thread that the "Sentry" is really the Void.

You think Sentry is Sentry blaxxer?

Right now it seems the only ones who are who they say they are would be Ares and Marvel Boy. Do we add Sentry or not to the list of those who are who they claim to be?

blaXXer · January 9 2009, 05:12 PM

Captain Craig wrote:

CYOTI says up thread that the "Sentry" is really the Void.

You think Sentry is Sentry blaxxer?

Right now it seems the only ones who are who they say they are would be Ares and Marvel Boy. Do we add Sentry or not to the list of those who are who they claim to be?

Well Sentry and Void are essentially the same person...so what big difference does it make? But yeah, I believe it's the Sentry, only for the sheer mindfuck.

Captain Craig · January 9 2009, 08:40 PM

blaXXer wrote:

Captain Craig wrote:

CYOTI says up thread that the "Sentry" is really the Void.

You think Sentry is Sentry blaxxer?

Right now it seems the only ones who are who they say they are would be Ares and Marvel Boy. Do we add Sentry or not to the list of those who are who they claim to be?

Well Sentry and Void are essentially the same person...so what big difference does it make? But yeah, I believe it's the Sentry, only for the sheer mindfuck.

I know, kinda like Phoenix and Dark Phonix are the same person just different personality in control. Granted there is a garment reflection of that. Just clearing up the personility that will be driving the "Sentry" in this series.

blaXXer · January 9 2009, 09:01 PM

Well, Reynolds is essentially sheep-like while following whoever's in charge so it would not surprise me if that were actually the Sentry...Norman just gotta handle him right...

Ben Sisko3 · January 9 2009, 10:58 PM

mostlyharmless wrote:

Captain Craig wrote:

Comments on where this title is going during Dark Reign and its ability to last much beyond that.

If I had to guess, the cycle of "events" that started with Avengers Disassmbled, that let to Civil War, and the Superhero Registerstration, etc, will end soon following Dark Reign, ending the SHRA, redeeming Tony Stark, and leading to reconciliation of the Avengers, and it´s relaunch with another #1 issue, featuring Captain America (Steve Rogers), Iron Man, (Tony Stark), Thor, and Wasp (Janet Van Dyne).

Don't forget Hank Pym and possibly Dr. Banner to complete the original roster. I also wouldn't count out Hawkeye and Black Widow, with their rumored appearances in Iron Man 2 and The Avengers.

Additionally, Pepper Potts can be seen shutting down Stark Industries effective immediately in Invincible Iron Man #9.

My take on who's who?

The Sentry...The Void
Ares...Ares
Marvel Boy...Marvel Boy
Hawkeye...Bullseye
Wolverine...Daken
Ms. Marvel...Moonstone
Spider-Man...Norman Osborn (not even his teammates know)
Iron Patriot...Harry Osborn

Hermiod · January 9 2009, 11:00 PM

^It's going to take a lot for people to trust the Hulk again.

Ben Sisko3 · January 9 2009, 11:09 PM

Hermiod wrote:

^It's going to take a lot for people to trust the Hulk again.

True. We'll see what Slott's Mighty Avengers does in that regard.

Captain Craig · January 9 2009, 11:09 PM

Ben Sisko3 wrote:

Spider-Man...Norman Osborn (not even his teammates know)
Iron Patriot...Harry Osborn

Timeout

Spider-Man = Norman Osborn?? The original GG is now bonded to the symbiote? What happened to Gargan, I don't read TB.

Iron Patriot = Harry Osborn??? Did you read the big buddy confession at the end of the last ASM with Molten Man. Is the greater MU even concerened with BND Spidey or what??

Ben Sisko3 · January 9 2009, 11:13 PM

Captain Craig wrote:

Ben Sisko3 wrote:

Spider-Man...Norman Osborn (not even his teammates know)
Iron Patriot...Harry Osborn

Timeout

Spider-Man = Norman Osborn?? The original GG is now bonded to the symbiote? What happened to Gargan, I don't read TB.

Iron Patriot = Harry Osborn??? Did you read the big buddy confession at the end of the last ASM with Molten Man. Is the greater MU even concerened with BND Spidey or what??

Who knows if he's even bonded with the symbiote? It could just be a black costume, no symbiote necessary. And nothing's happened with Gargan since he left the T-Bolts, save for an appearance on the last page of New Avengers #48.

I haven't read Amazing Spider-Man since December 2007, but I have absolutely no doubt that Norman is not above manipulating his son in order to do whatever he wants. And using Harry Osborn as a major player in the MU is the only reason to justify his soap opera-worthy resurrection.

darkwing_duck1 · January 10 2009, 12:17 AM

My thoughts on the whole sorry affair can be summed up as this:

reboot the 616 MU back to the point of about Thunderbolts 75 (right before "the fight club" took over).

Nothing less can fix the mess that Jem-ass started and his brown nosed acolyte Joey Q finished.

CYOTI · January 10 2009, 01:09 AM

Quesada isn't the problem, the problem is he is letting monkeys like Bendis and Millar run the insane asylum.

Thrall · January 10 2009, 01:18 AM

darkwing_duck1 wrote:

My thoughts on the whole sorry affair can be summed up as this:

reboot the 616 MU back to the point of about Thunderbolts 75 (right before "the fight club" took over).

Nothing less can fix the mess that Jem-ass started and his brown nosed acolyte Joey Q finished.

Yeah, me too more or less. I'd settle for Gwen Stacy not to have pitty fucked Norman Osborne or New X-Men being a bad dream, but everyone already knows my opinion on those so I won't waste anyone's time. The canon has gotten so far away from the core mythology at this point I'd settle for Crisis on Infinite Earths style revamp but, because of the guys in charge, we'd get something like The Ultimate Universe. But I must be honest and confess I don't hate The Ultimate Universe as much as most people do. Mostly because, unlike the 616, the characterization is always consistent if not neccissarily good or appropriate. And it doesn't have nearly a half century of mythology to throw out the window like these guys get off on doing. And it's Cyclops and Phoenix are still together and, because I'm so fanatically shippy, that's always enough to keep me content. And Sam Jackson as Nick Fury is a pretty cool idea.

Bendis chased me away from The Avengers the same way he chased me away from Ultimate X-Men and the same reason I never got into Ultimate Spider-Man. I just don't like his writing. I don't have a professional dislike for him like, say, I do Grant Morrison. I'm sure he's an OK guy. I've always found his writing underwhelming and nothing I've ever read from him has ever once done anything to even slightly change that opinion. Ok, I take that back slightly. I think his dialogue is great. But everything else is just kind of "there" for me. Without any of the Earth shattering moments he always puts forth, he really doesn't have much to offer IMO. So this is just kind of more of the same, predicatable "change just for the sake of change" nonsense he and Millar and Quesada and everyone else have been peddling since 2000. I'm sure it will sell well. Big names on big titles combined with big events always do. But that doesn't make it good. And even if it is, quality writing without a sense of mythology is meaningless. At least to me.

darkwing_duck1 · January 10 2009, 01:50 AM

CYOTI wrote:

Quesada isn't the problem, the problem is he is letting monkeys like Bendis and Millar run the insane asylum.

Since Joey is EIC, and has the power to STOP them, yes he IS the problem.

He LIKES Bendis/Millar. He's said publicly that the Ultimateverse is the better Marvel Universe. That's what all this crap that's happened under his watch is all about: "ultimatizing" the 616 continuity.

I cannot say enough bad things about an EIC that would allow writers to MISwrite a group like the New Warriors just to kick off a crappy, "universe changing" storyline like Civil War. Or killing Cap for no good reason. Or busting up Spidey and Mary Jane.

He needs to go, like YESTERDAY. Put DeFalco in charge...he knows how 616 Marvel SHOULD be written!

blaXXer · January 10 2009, 01:55 AM

Another thread hijacked by the acolytes of suck...heck, don't get you panties inna bunch but comics have outgrown you. Get back to your insignificant lives and let us nerds contemplate the current status quo in peace, please...

darkwing_duck1 · January 10 2009, 02:38 AM

blaXXer wrote:

Another thread hijacked by the acolytes of suck...

How can you hijack your own thread?

January 9 2009, 05:00 PM	#16
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Dark Avengers - Your thoughts CYOTI says up thread that the "Sentry" is really the Void. You think Sentry is Sentry blaxxer? Right now it seems the only ones who are who they say they are would be Ares and Marvel Boy. Do we add Sentry or not to the list of those who are who they claim to be? __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

January 9 2009, 09:01 PM	#19
blaXXer Fleet Captain	Re: Dark Avengers - Your thoughts Well, Reynolds is essentially sheep-like while following whoever's in charge so it would not surprise me if that were actually the Sentry...Norman just gotta handle him right... __________________ www.blaxxer.de

January 9 2009, 11:00 PM	#21
Hermiod Admiral	Re: Dark Avengers - Your thoughts ^It's going to take a lot for people to trust the Hulk again.

January 10 2009, 12:17 AM	#25
darkwing_duck1 Vice Admiral Location: the Unreconstructed South	Re: Dark Avengers - Your thoughts My thoughts on the whole sorry affair can be summed up as this: reboot the 616 MU back to the point of about Thunderbolts 75 (right before "the fight club" took over). Nothing less can fix the mess that Jem-ass started and his brown nosed acolyte Joey Q finished.

January 10 2009, 01:09 AM	#26
CYOTI Vice Admiral	Re: Dark Avengers - Your thoughts Quesada isn't the problem, the problem is he is letting monkeys like Bendis and Millar run the insane asylum.

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January 10 2009, 01:55 AM	#29
blaXXer Fleet Captain	Re: Dark Avengers - Your thoughts Another thread hijacked by the acolytes of suck...heck, don't get you panties inna bunch but comics have outgrown you. Get back to your insignificant lives and let us nerds contemplate the current status quo in peace, please... __________________ www.blaxxer.de