Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads - Page 80

middyseafort · January 6 2009, 05:18 AM

JoeD80 wrote:

It was either in the script book or in an interview somewhere that Paul Winfield had some trouble with remembering large amounts of dialogue for his scenes; so perhaps they didn't bring him back in another episode because of that.

I also remember a comment, iirc by JMS (Jan help?), that Paul Winfield made some disparaging remarks about the Babylon 5 crew being "unprofessional" compared with the folks at Trek.

Phily B · January 8 2009, 01:09 PM

holy shit, watched that episode with claudia, jerry and bruce commentating and it was fucking hilarious

needed more commentary

Neroon · January 8 2009, 03:40 PM

"The Geometry of Shadows"? Yes that's a perfect example of cast commentaries and how two-edged they can be. Personally, I loved it, because I like the banter and so forth, but I can see how some folks aren't as entertained.

Harvey · January 9 2009, 02:54 AM

I'm not really interested in commentaries to be entertained (unless they're going to go all out and do something like the Tropic Thunder commentary), but I'm a film snob like that. JMS' commentaries are well-prepared and informative, at least of the ones I've listened to. I prefer those, and wish he could speak to every episode (alas!).

middyseafort · January 9 2009, 03:52 AM

^I found that it was mostly Christian and Doyle that were the ones who made a farce out of the commentaries, while the others put a little more consideration into their comments, especially Bruce and Peter Jurasik. I also thought Pat Tallman was quite good, in her commentaries, discussing her particular scene and what went on.

Bruce of all the "human" actors seemed to get the show the most, respected what JMS was trying to do with the format and the story.

Vendor · January 9 2009, 03:52 AM

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Neroon · January 9 2009, 04:01 AM

At the risk of sounding maudlin... I regret never having heard Andreas Katsulas on a commentary.

Jan · January 10 2009, 07:27 PM

middyseafort wrote:

I also remember a comment, iirc by JMS (Jan help?), that Paul Winfield made some disparaging remarks about the Babylon 5 crew being "unprofessional" compared with the folks at Trek.

I can't find anything in the archives or in the Jane Killick books. In the Other Voices script book for the episode, Larry DiTillio comments that Winfield had some problems with the long speaches and that they had to be cut down and that there was kind of a circus atmosphere when shooting that episode with so many extras.

Neroon wrote:

At the risk of sounding maudlin... I regret never having heard Andreas Katsulas on a commentary.

Agreed completely. I'm completely in agreement with why he didn't (WB wouldn't pay him) but I'd very much have liked to get his insights into his character.

Jan

middyseafort · January 10 2009, 07:47 PM

Jan wrote:

middyseafort wrote:

I also remember a comment, iirc by JMS (Jan help?), that Paul Winfield made some disparaging remarks about the Babylon 5 crew being "unprofessional" compared with the folks at Trek.

I can't find anything in the archives or in the Jane Killick books. In the Other Voices script book for the episode, Larry DiTillio comments that Winfield had some problems with the long speaches and that they had to be cut down and that there was kind of a circus atmosphere when shooting that episode with so many extras.

Thanks; I don't know where I saw it. But what I recall was that he said the cast/crew goofed off and that it seemed less professional than the Trek guys. I dunno maybe it was an interview with Paul Winfield. Or my memory is shot.

Jan · January 10 2009, 08:42 PM

middyseafort wrote:

Thanks; I don't know where I saw it. But what I recall was that he said the cast/crew goofed off and that it seemed less professional than the Trek guys. I dunno maybe it was an interview with Paul Winfield. Or my memory is shot.

Well, JMS did say that laughter was a sound you heard a lot there.

Perhaps ther was an interview in the B5 magazine? At some point I'd like to catalogue just what's in each of them since it was always much more than showed in the Contents listing. Some day when I've got more round tuits.

Jan

Neroon · January 12 2009, 04:58 AM

Jan wrote:

At some point I'd like to catalogue just what's in each of them since it was always much more than showed in the Contents listing. Some day when I've got more round tuits.

Jan

Bluejay · January 22 2009, 04:42 PM

I wish outtakes were included in the B5 dvds (like those in ENT dvds...finally!) The only one outtake I remembered was the joke they played on Michael O'Hare in S1.

Lindley · January 22 2009, 05:00 PM

There are outtakes on the B5 DVDs, but they're hidden. Also, incomplete. They cut the DS9 reference from the season 3 reel, for instance.

I think season 1 is the only B5 set where the hidden egg is the series trailer rather than the outtakes.

Neroon · January 23 2009, 02:45 AM

The gag reels for the Season 2 and Season 3 boxed sets are hidden as easter eggs. However, the Season 4 and Season 5 boxed sets have their respective gag reels as separate tracks on the last disk of the set. Even so, all of those are still only a subset of the uber-reel for all five seasons.

chrisspringob · January 23 2009, 12:03 PM

I believe the complete blooper reel for each season can be found on Youtube.

January 8 2009, 01:09 PM	#1187
Phily B Fleet Captain Location: United Kingdom	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads holy shit, watched that episode with claudia, jerry and bruce commentating and it was fucking hilarious needed more commentary

January 8 2009, 03:40 PM	#1188
Neroon Memory and awareness Location: On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling thru the galaxy	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads "The Geometry of Shadows"? Yes that's a perfect example of cast commentaries and how two-edged they can be. Personally, I loved it, because I like the banter and so forth, but I can see how some folks aren't as entertained. __________________ “You break through the veil whenever you strap on a sword or chant the ancient verses. You escape when you write a poem or a tale that brings beauty into the world. You are set free whenever you love—even those who believe you’re crazy." ~ Jef Murray, 'Seer: A Wizard's Journal'

January 9 2009, 02:54 AM	#1189
Harvey Admiral	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads I'm not really interested in commentaries to be entertained (unless they're going to go all out and do something like the Tropic Thunder commentary), but I'm a film snob like that. JMS' commentaries are well-prepared and informative, at least of the ones I've listened to. I prefer those, and wish he could speak to every episode (alas!). __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

January 9 2009, 03:52 AM	#1190
middyseafort Rear Admiral Location: The Bay Area	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads ^I found that it was mostly Christian and Doyle that were the ones who made a farce out of the commentaries, while the others put a little more consideration into their comments, especially Bruce and Peter Jurasik. I also thought Pat Tallman was quite good, in her commentaries, discussing her particular scene and what went on. Bruce of all the "human" actors seemed to get the show the most, respected what JMS was trying to do with the format and the story. __________________ A mild-mannered reporter Literary Masturbation

January 9 2009, 04:01 AM	#1192
Neroon Memory and awareness Location: On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling thru the galaxy	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads At the risk of sounding maudlin... I regret never having heard Andreas Katsulas on a commentary. __________________ “You break through the veil whenever you strap on a sword or chant the ancient verses. You escape when you write a poem or a tale that brings beauty into the world. You are set free whenever you love—even those who believe you’re crazy." ~ Jef Murray, 'Seer: A Wizard's Journal'

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January 22 2009, 04:42 PM	#1197
Bluejay Lieutenant Location: Currently wandering Middle Earth	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads I wish outtakes were included in the B5 dvds (like those in ENT dvds...finally!) The only one outtake I remembered was the joke they played on Michael O'Hare in S1.

January 22 2009, 05:00 PM	#1198
Lindley Moderator with a Soul Location: Fairfax, VA	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads There are outtakes on the B5 DVDs, but they're hidden. Also, incomplete. They cut the DS9 reference from the season 3 reel, for instance. I think season 1 is the only B5 set where the hidden egg is the series trailer rather than the outtakes. __________________ Lead Organizer for EVN: Firefly. "So apparently the really smart zombies have automatic weapons!" -Torg, Sluggy Freelance

January 23 2009, 02:45 AM	#1199
Neroon Memory and awareness Location: On my ship the Rocinante, wheeling thru the galaxy	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads The gag reels for the Season 2 and Season 3 boxed sets are hidden as easter eggs. However, the Season 4 and Season 5 boxed sets have their respective gag reels as separate tracks on the last disk of the set. Even so, all of those are still only a subset of the uber-reel for all five seasons. __________________ “You break through the veil whenever you strap on a sword or chant the ancient verses. You escape when you write a poem or a tale that brings beauty into the world. You are set free whenever you love—even those who believe you’re crazy." ~ Jef Murray, 'Seer: A Wizard's Journal'

January 23 2009, 12:03 PM	#1200
chrisspringob Commodore Location: North Ryde, NSW	Re: Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads I believe the complete blooper reel for each season can be found on Youtube.