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Old January 5 2009, 10:09 PM   #16
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Re: I finally watched Firefly! (SPOILERS)

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^There is the comic book which Joss writes. I have not read it myself.
They're not ongoing comics though. So far there has only been the 3 issue Those Left Behind released in 2005, which takes place before the movie. And the recent early 2008 3 issue Better Days, taking place between the end of the TV show and Those Left Behind
Both are written by Whedon and Brett Matthews, who wrote the ep "Heart of Gold"

TLB is pretty good, while BD is fairly "meh"

There are plans for a new miniseries called A Shepherd's Tale, about Book's backstory, for release sometime in 2009
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Old January 6 2009, 12:19 AM   #17
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too bad they canceled this show. I checked this out for the first time during the holidays, and God I was sad it ended. I fell in love with every characters in less than 20 episodes. Enterprise never got me so quickly. I watched Serenity right after and loved it even more.

by the way, is there any plans to ressurect the series, or even do some sequels... I ask because I'm new in the franchise...

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Old January 6 2009, 12:22 AM   #18
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Re: I finally watched Firefly! (SPOILERS)

This show I think should be considered one of the best scifi series made
though canceled.

The movie aswell. Not sure if it's been said one way or the other anywhere
by Joss himself, but it would seem like once the show was canceled he wrote
the movie to play out the rest of the series storyline in condensed form.

Amazing franchise I do hope we get more of one day.
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Old January 6 2009, 01:14 AM   #19
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Re: I finally watched Firefly! (SPOILERS)

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by the way, is there any plans to ressurect the series, or even do some sequels... I ask because I'm new in the franchise...
The series, it is believed, was sacrificed under the terms by which Joss got to make the movie - its return is thus very unlikely.
The movie, although it did fairly well for what it was, was hardly a blockbuster, and unlikely to stimulate studios to fall over themselves to make another. Besides, the movie very succinctly ties up the Firefly package. If we were gonna get more Firefly, it needed to come before the movie.
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Old January 6 2009, 05:30 AM   #20
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Re: I finally watched Firefly! (SPOILERS)

Well, first off, you must download this.

(There's a fully-produced version on the album Thirteen, which may I say is very good in its own right.)
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Old January 6 2009, 05:53 AM   #21
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Firefly is a great, great series and probably could have gone two or three season before a decline.

On the other hand, I'm grateful to Serenity because now I don't miss Firefly anymore.
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Old January 6 2009, 07:49 AM   #22
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Re: I finally watched Firefly! (SPOILERS)

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by the way, is there any plans to ressurect the series, or even do some sequels... I ask because I'm new in the franchise...
The series, it is believed, was sacrificed under the terms by which Joss got to make the movie - its return is thus very unlikely.
What on Earth are you talking about? I've been a Browncoat since 2002, and that is not how it went down at all.

Firefly was cancelled because of poor ratings. It had poor ratings because Fox didn't air the pilot first and then aired the episodes inconsistently, constantly pre-empting them, and thus preventing the show from building up an audience.

When Firefly was cancelled, Whedon immediately announced that he was working on a deal to continue it in the form of a movie, but most everyone thought that was it and the show was dead. It wasn't until mid-2004, a year and a half later, that Whedon announced a movie was going to be made after he convinced Universal Pictures to buy the movie rights from 20th Century Fox Studios.

Firefly was not cancelled under terms by which the movie got to be made. Not at all.
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Old January 6 2009, 07:50 AM   #23
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^There is the comic book which Joss writes. I have not read it myself.

The sad truth is that the show was cut short. There are a lot of stories they never had the chance to tell.
The comic books (two 3 issue mini-series) are underwhelming at best.
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Old January 6 2009, 08:01 AM   #24
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by the way, is there any plans to ressurect the series, or even do some sequels... I ask because I'm new in the franchise...
The series, it is believed, was sacrificed under the terms by which Joss got to make the movie - its return is thus very unlikely.
What on Earth are you talking about? I've been a Browncoat since 2002, and that is not how it went down at all.
I interpreted that to mean that after Firefly was cancelled and Whedon wanted it to continue in some form, he gave up any chance of it returning to TV when he made the movie deal.
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Old January 6 2009, 08:02 AM   #25
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A movie deal which probably would have had zero chance of success had the Firefly DVDs not sold as well as they did.
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Old January 6 2009, 08:25 AM   #26
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The working theory is that Book was a former Operative.
That would certainly explain a few things.

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What about the bounty hunter? Isn't that s'posed to be the last episode?
I saw that episode but it's not the last one I watched. Basically I watched the episodes in the order they are listed on IMDB.

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Why don't you just order the DVDs from amazon.com?
My situation is a little unique. Suffice it to say I am moving back to Canada next summer and will pick the set up when I move back.

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too bad they canceled this show. I checked this out for the first time during the holidays, and God I was sad it ended. I fell in love with every characters in less than 20 episodes. Enterprise never got me so quickly. I watched Serenity right after and loved it even more.
Same here. I can't believe I didn't watch it when it first aired. Then again I hadn't really heard anything about it and I certainly don't remember seeing any promotions for it.

Why do people even bother selling their shows to Fox anymore? It seems like all Fox does is cancel any good shows they get a hold of.
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Old January 6 2009, 09:19 AM   #27
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The series, it is believed, was sacrificed under the terms by which Joss got to make the movie - its return is thus very unlikely.
What on Earth are you talking about? I've been a Browncoat since 2002, and that is not how it went down at all.
I interpreted that to mean that after Firefly was cancelled and Whedon wanted it to continue in some form, he gave up any chance of it returning to TV when he made the movie deal.
I've literally never heard of that. Universal Pictures didn't buy the Firefly series itself, it bought the rights to make a film based upon it. Legally, there's no more a block to a Firefly TV show being made than there was a block to another Star Trek TV show being made after Star Trek: The Motion Pictures. 20th Century Fox still owns Firefly -- it is Universal that owns Serenity.
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Old January 6 2009, 10:50 AM   #28
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I think Indyjones is correct though. Whedon had abandoned any TV revival when he wrote the film screenplay.
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Old January 6 2009, 11:11 AM   #29
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I think Indyjones is correct though. Whedon had abandoned any TV revival when he wrote the film screenplay.
Well, yeah, he abandoned any attempts to revive it on TV because it was just never gonna happen. But that doesn't mean that there was some sort of legal barrier.
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Old January 6 2009, 12:21 PM   #30
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by the way, is there any plans to ressurect the series, or even do some sequels... I ask because I'm new in the franchise...
The series, it is believed, was sacrificed under the terms by which Joss got to make the movie - its return is thus very unlikely.
What on Earth are you talking about? I've been a Browncoat since 2002, and that is not how it went down at all.

Firefly was cancelled because of poor ratings. It had poor ratings because Fox didn't air the pilot first and then aired the episodes inconsistently, constantly pre-empting them, and thus preventing the show from building up an audience.

When Firefly was cancelled, Whedon immediately announced that he was working on a deal to continue it in the form of a movie, but most everyone thought that was it and the show was dead. It wasn't until mid-2004, a year and a half later, that Whedon announced a movie was going to be made after he convinced Universal Pictures to buy the movie rights from 20th Century Fox Studios.

Firefly was not cancelled under terms by which the movie got to be made. Not at all.
Fox didn't pre-emt the show the local channels did and there's no proof that airing the show out of order hurt it, if anything the premise hurt the show more than anything else.
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