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Old December 28 2008, 04:05 AM   #46
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I just saw 'Skin of Evil'. The Black-Soot Oil creature that killed Lt. Yar.
Why did they kill her off? Career-move? Anyone remember why she was let go?
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Old December 28 2008, 07:32 AM   #47
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I just saw 'Skin of Evil'. The Black-Soot Oil creature that killed Lt. Yar.
Why did they kill her off? Career-move? Anyone remember why she was let go?
Hey, trekjiro. I believe Denise Crosby felt she wasn't getting good plots as Tasha Yar, so that's why she was killed off. Of course, Tasha's character being iced gave Michael Dorn more screentime as Worf became security chief. If that hadn't happened, his character would've developed quite differently, I'm sure. -- RR
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Old December 28 2008, 08:04 AM   #48
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Them uniforms was awful
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Old December 28 2008, 09:23 AM   #49
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And the music in those episodes were just beautiful. I know, everybody hates the synthisizer (I hope I spelled that right), but I loved it.
The Synthesizer is the best part of Season 1. It certainly adds to the character of it. Episodes like "Where no one has gone before" would lose so much of their awesomeness if they had been done in the later season's bland orchestral progressions.
Encounter at Farpoint - DeForest Kelley cameo and the introduction of Q make this a winner.
Not a really good episode, but Q saves it from total lameness. I also like the "The Enterprise encounters a UFO" bit.
The Naked Now - Perhaps produced too early, but we do learn that Data is 'fully functional'. Winner
This is one of the bad ones. Horrid episode. Data's line "What just happened is.....impossible!" hah hah so grating, like nails scratching down a chalkboard. The whole "fully functional" thing was horrid, fanwanking for the nerds IMO.
Code of Honor - "You will have no vaccine and no Lieutenant Yar!!!", ugh. Probably worst episode in all of Trek. Loser
It was comical, but not in a good way. I think it would have redeemed itself a bit if there were some black people on the planet that WEREN'T in some African Tribe mentality. I'm surprised this episode was allowed to be made.
The Last Outpost - Like The Naked Now, a rip of an original Star Trek episode. Still entertaining. Winner
It was great. I liked it. Felt mysterious and alien, like Trek should be.
Where No One Has Gone Before - "Space and time and thought are not the seperate things we believe them to be", Winner.
Indeed! My favorite TNG episode. This was Star Trek embodied in one episode.
Lonely Among Us - "P for Picard" almost sunk this one... but the B story with the warring alien diplomats make it a winner.
It was decent. The attempt at alien looking aliens was better than most of future trek's goofaced bumpy faced foreheads.
Justice - Almost as bad as Code of Honor, but a hell of a lot more entertaining. Loser
The thing with "god" was cool. Otherwise, horrible episode.
The Battle - Ferengi come back and are less irritating to boot. Interesting insights to Picard's past. Winner
It was decent enough. It gets a pass from me as well.
Hide and Q - One of my personal favorites. Great sci-fi premise and John deLancie hamming it up. Winner
The episode felt off somehow, but it was still good. A remastered version could ham up the graphics quite a bit, and fix that ugly pastel planet.
Haven - We almost lose Counselor Troi. Damn, that would have been a shame. Loser
Lame episode for sure.
The Big Goodbye - This episode already gets enough praise. Winner
I didn't like it for several reasons. It tried to play the holodeck as a creator of a real world, rather than an illusion. My computer games don't ask if they are going to die whenever I turn my computer off. Also, having Beverly be "confused" by make up (when you can clearly see Gates McFadden has a couple of buckets pasted on her face) was really stretching it there. A loser in my book
Datalore - Brent Spiner in a dual role and the threat of turning Wesley into a torch. Winner
Excellent episode.
Angel One - Next. Loser
80's tramps take control of a planet. Not....funny.
11001001 - Another great sci-fi premise. Binars are an interesting race. Winner
I think this is the first time we see the majestic mushroom starbase in TNG? Just for that it's a winner.
Too Short a Season - The spiritual sequel to A Private Little War. Winner
Loser to me. William Shatner shouldn't have been such a dick, and should have starred in the episode the way it was intended to be.
When the Bough Breaks - Yawn. Gag. Snore. Loser
I liked it. It wasn't expanded enough, but it had a good premise. I liked the threat of sending the Enterprise years away from the planet, would have liked to see them test it out.
Home Soil - "Ugly bags of mostly water", yeah... well screw you too. Loser
Data kicks a laser's ass. Just for that it's a winner.
Coming of Age - Points for setting up Conspiracy, just not enough. Loser
Don't remember this one too well, other than that goofy guy getting on people's nerves. Forgettable episode
Heart of Glory - When the Klingons still seemed like TOS Klingons. Winner
I'm so sick of Klingons that I have to give this one a Loser score. Even that hot Klingon babe showed up later as a Q in Voyager, where she looked even hotter, taking away the only reason for me to watch the episode.
The Arsenal of Freedom - Arms dealers who are outsmarted by their own weapons, classic. Winner
Nice action oriented episode. The irony was thick as a brick.
Symbiosis - Hahahahahahahaha. Love the use of the Prime Directive here. The last three minutes make up for the first 57. Winner
Was this the crazy episode where the crew are being choked to death by the other people on that ship? Why didn't someone torpedo their asses??? They could still move their hands. Loser
Skin of Evil - Loved the concept here. A skewed take on Who Mourns for Adonais. Winner
The swamp thing attacks the crew of the Enterprise and Tasha dies. I liked Tasha and would have liked to see her character explored more. Loser. Only redeeming quality was Picard telling the creature it could eat shit and die alone there. Still a loser though.
We'll Always Have Paris - Seems like it's not only Jimmy Kirk who likes "little blond lab assistants". Winner
Loved the Sci-Fi angle. The love triangle hurt it a bit, but still a winner, if only to see two Data's confused the freak out of each other in a turbolift.
Conspiracy - Scorpions have taken over the Federation. Winner
Too much of a rip off of Aliens IMO. At least they blasted them to Kingdom come at the end. I wish Data would have taken on that Admiral at the beginning, and see if he could snap his neck without getting his ass fed to him.
The Neutral Zone - 20th century humans, the return of the Romulans and the first indications of the Borg. Only The Best of Both Worlds was a better season finale.
The concept was good. The humans were majorly boring. The Romulans showing up at the end redeems the episode. Winner.

So yeah, first season had lots of winners
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Old December 28 2008, 09:35 AM   #50
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Where No One Has Gone Before - D-
You're giving this episode a D-?? What the heck? Why?? In my opinion it gets an A, and then only reason it doesn't get an A+ is because the characters still feels stuffy and uncomfortable with each other (most of the 1st season is like this) but I forgive that minor quibble. How can anyone not like watching Picard almost step off a Turbolift straight into deep space?? lol
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Old December 28 2008, 09:47 AM   #51
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I have both Season 1 and 2 of TNG on dvd. I think season 1 has plenty of quality episodes in it IMO. Datalore was a good ep, very enjoyable.
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Old December 28 2008, 03:01 PM   #52
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I think the man skirts were the bravest thing Trek ever attempted. Sure I thought they looked silly as hell as does everyone else which shows how much bias we have towards such an idea. Plus, we could occasionally to get see the women in skirts.
Those skants were ugly!!!!
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Old December 28 2008, 03:04 PM   #53
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^^^

Well, no, I can never revisit those "Buck Rogers" episodes after all these years, but 28 years since originally watching those episodes on television (I am currently 33.) I discovered to my surprise and delight that Buster Crabbe ("Flash Gordon") guest-starred in one of those episodes.
I'm ashamed to say I have those on DVD -- and I can't watch them either...

Wilma Deering aside, they are just too bad, with only a couple of exceptions...and TWIKI is an abomination of the order of Jar-Jar Binks...
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Old December 29 2008, 01:54 AM   #54
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"Home Soil" was another ripoff of TOS IMO. It felt very much like a poor man's "The Devil in the Dark". Even with this said, I thought "Home Soil" was a good first season episode. It just wasn't great like "The Devil in the Dark" was IMO.
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Old December 29 2008, 04:47 AM   #55
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"Home Soil" was another ripoff of TOS IMO. It felt very much like a poor man's "The Devil in the Dark". Even with this said, I thought "Home Soil" was a good first season episode. It just wasn't great like "The Devil in the Dark" was IMO.
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To me, it's one of the worst season one eps. Not only was it a bad ripoff of Devil in the Dark, a TOS season one actor was in it. Home Soil is such an abomination to me, I've only seen it twice, but the actor in question, the guy who gets zapped by the laser, is the mindless minion that operates the deadly device in Dagger of the Mind.

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Old December 30 2008, 04:09 AM   #56
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"Home Soil" was another ripoff of TOS IMO. It felt very much like a poor man's "The Devil in the Dark". Even with this said, I thought "Home Soil" was a good first season episode. It just wasn't great like "The Devil in the Dark" was IMO.
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To me, it's one of the worst season one eps. Not only was it a bad ripoff of Devil in the Dark, a TOS season one actor was in it. Home Soil is such an abomination to me, I've only seen it twice, but the actor in question, the guy who gets zapped by the laser, is the mindless minion that operates the deadly device in Dagger of the Mind.

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I understand.

But for me there were so many worse season 1 episodes that I kind of liked it.

However, compared to the typical S2 - S5 episodes, I will agree that it wasn't good.
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Old December 30 2008, 06:49 AM   #57
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I just saw 'Skin of Evil'. The Black-Soot Oil creature that killed Lt. Yar.
Why did they kill her off? Career-move? Anyone remember why she was let go?
Hey, trekjiro. I believe Denise Crosby felt she wasn't getting good plots as Tasha Yar, so that's why she was killed off. Of course, Tasha's character being iced gave Michael Dorn more screentime as Worf became security chief. If that hadn't happened, his character would've developed quite differently, I'm sure. -- RR
Thanks RRanger for the info. I was just wondering. I noticed some recent pics of her at some conventions. Even though she left, she still seems to appreciate the recognition as a Trekky.

I just completed watching Season One. I enjoyed it very much.

Summary:

Worst:
Naked Now

Excellent:
Datalore
Where No One Has Gone Before
Hide and Q
11001001
Heart of Glory
Conspiracy

SEASON1:

1: Encounter at Farpoint: B
'Q' character introduced. Movie-like story in TV prod.

2: The Naked Now: D
Crew gets some kind of Sexual bug

3: Code of Honor: C
African-like people fight for 'honor'.

4: The Last Outpost: C-
1st appearance of Ferrenghis

5: Where No One Has Gone Before: A-
Wesley and the Time Traveler. Good graphics of time travel/different galaxies.

6: Lonely Among Us: B
Crew possessed by an energy-life.

7: Justice: "C+"
Crew visits 'Eden' planet. Wesley gets in trouble and 'god' wants to punish the crew.

8: The Battle: "C+"
Battle with the Ferrangi mind-sphere.

9: Hide and Q: "B+"
Q gives Riker Q-like powers.

10: Haven: "C+"
A Doctor Wyatt has dream girl. Almost weds Troi.

11: The Big Goodbye: "B"
First episode with Holodeck: Dixon Hill Private Eye.

12: Datalore: "A-"
Data goes back to home planet. Discovers his brother 'Lore' who is more human and evil.

13: AngelOne: "B-"
Stranded crew on Woman's planet. Enterprise must save them and also rid of virus in ship.

14: 11001001: "B+"
Twin Bynars take over ship to save planet. Minuet in Holodeck distracts Ryker.

15: Too Short a Season: "C"
An Admiral takes a youth syrum to try to negotiate for hostages from an old war mistake.

16: When the Bough Breaks: "C+"
Enterprise finds mythological planet that is technologically advanced but can't bear children.

17: Home Soil: "C"
New life form crystal discovered and almost killed on planet.

18: Coming of Age: "B"
Wesley tests for Academy against Morlock. Picard is scrutinized by investigation.

19: Heart of Glory: "B+"
Enterprise capture 2 Klingons on a remote cargo ship and try to sway Worf to join.

20: The Arsenal of Freedom: "B"
Weapons System on planet tries to kill away team. LeForge has to Captain the Enterprise

21: Symbiosis: "C+"
Enterprise rescues a freighter that held a shipment of drugs to a people/planet.

22: Skin of Evil: "B"
Oil-like Creature kills Lt Yar and threatens crew on uninhabited planet.

23: We'll Always Have Paris: "C-"
Picard runs into an old lady friend to patch things up. Her husband is in trouble with his time experiments.

24: Conspiracy: "B+"
Alien/Parasite invades Starfleets highest and try to 'convert' Picard/Riker to take control of Enterprise.

25: The Neutral Zone: "B"
Enterprise goes to Neutral Zone for possible confrontation with Romulans. 3 people from 20th Century discovered in Cyrogenic state on old space station.
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Old January 4 2009, 10:08 PM   #58
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I have started a DVD based re-run of TNG and have so far re-watched 6-7 episodes of Season one and like it a lot.

I do not share the high praise for Encounter at Farpoint, though. A lot of the details seem off (which is usually alright for a pilot) but this time in an extend that I can't tolerate really.

So far I enjoy Data very much. The Last Outpost and the chineese fingertraps anyone? Nice lines and great acting by Brent Spiner.

Also great acting by Patrick Stewart.

Gates McFadden is too wooden for me, especially wen she has to deal with medical instruments. She is better in character-to-character situations I think.
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Gates McFadden is too wooden for me, especially wen she has to deal with medical instruments. She is better in character-to-character situations I think.
The actress and the character never really clicked for me. I felt that she was just... well, there. She might as well have been a piece of sickbay furniture. I was glad they replaced her in season two and was disappointed when she returned in season three.
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Old January 5 2009, 02:56 AM   #60
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^Hmmm...

I tend to like Crusher a lot more than Troi.

Although I do feel that TNG did not have great female lead characters, as DS9 did.
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