What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? - Page 4

Gojirob · December 19 2008, 04:37 AM

Scrooge4747 wrote:

iguana_tonante wrote:

I actually liked that. It gives the sense that the Joker is not just a weirdo in facepaint, he's a genius weirdo in facepaint, with a mind both brilliant and twisted.

Yeah, but come on. He finds TWO empty warehouses (granted, probably not all that hard) and FILLS them with TONS of explosives and he also fills TWO ferrys with TONS of explosives?

I mean, how did he manage to smuggle barrel fulls of explosives onto two city ferrys?! And where and how did he buy all of these explosives? Certainly buying all that stuff would've perked up someone's ears considering a person can't buy a slightly more than reasonable amount of fertilizer without getting the FBI or DHS knocking on their door and The Joker buys barrels and barrels of explosives?!

The Joker's army seemed lifted from the Arkham escapees. These would have a lot of other twisted 'geniuses'--none of them on his level--but each a 'Seven' wannabe, focusing their sometimes overestimated intelligence on nothing but doing things quietly until Joker gave the signal. They would be a considerable asset in pulling off the uber-campaign the Joker set out to do. I did feel at times that he was a Dark Mary Sue, but everything else overrode those few moments for me.

T'Baio · December 19 2008, 04:54 AM

The guy somehow put enough explosives in a multi ward hospital to completely level it. let alone the ferry's and warehouses. And this hospital was supposed to be under a watchful eye because Dent was in it!

exodus · December 19 2008, 03:55 PM

MeanJoePhaser wrote:

Scrooge4747 wrote:

Batman doesn't kill. Unless... he needs to save a child from a bulet in his head.... or by not saving someone.

Or accidently in a high speed chase. Again, I don't see the Joker's garbage truck driver coming out of that wreck alive. No.

A garbage truck like any moving vehicle is a couple ton weapon in which the driver used to kill cops with. If he didn't die in the crash he'd be on death row in prison, so what's the difference?

Brian · December 19 2008, 04:29 PM

The difference is that the assertion was made that Batman doesn't kill.

With his constant reckless freewheeling through town blowing shit up, this Batman obviously doesn't care so much about that rule, except with the psychopathic mass-murdering villain is in his sights.

Othello · December 19 2008, 04:38 PM

Maggie Gyllenhall!! Bleech!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both her acting performance and looks were HORRID!!! I want Katie Holmes back!!! She was a better actress and is WAYYYYY better looking.

Trekker4747 · December 19 2008, 06:12 PM

exodus wrote:

MeanJoePhaser wrote:

Scrooge4747 wrote:

Batman doesn't kill. Unless... he needs to save a child from a bulet in his head.... or by not saving someone.

Or accidently in a high speed chase. Again, I don't see the Joker's garbage truck driver coming out of that wreck alive. No.

A garbage truck like any moving vehicle is a couple ton weapon in which the driver used to kill cops with. If he didn't die in the crash he'd be on death row in prison, so what's the difference?

A trial, a jury, a judge, facts, his rights. Stuff like that.

exodus · December 19 2008, 06:29 PM

Hermey wrote:

The difference is that the assertion was made that Batman doesn't kill.

With his constant reckless freewheeling through town blowing shit up, this Batman obviously doesn't care so much about that rule, except with the psychopathic mass-murdering villain is in his sights.

Most "superheros" say that and comic book fans honestly believe these guys fight villians while tearing up entire city blocks in which no innocent bystander ever gets hurt by falling debris. It's like having cops in a shoot out with robbers and not expecting a random bullet to ricochet and hit somebody innocent by mistake. That's real life and it happens. How many people do you think Storm killed in X2 creating those hurricane funnels to escape the fighter jets?

Batman doesn't kill purposely. We have to accept in real world believability that random people on the sidelines or henchmen do get hurt or killed.

Lapis Exilis · December 19 2008, 06:57 PM

T'Baio wrote:

The guy somehow put enough explosives in a multi ward hospital to completely level it. let alone the ferry's and warehouses. And this hospital was supposed to be under a watchful eye because Dent was in it!

Yeah, the hospital is definitely a problem. I have less difficulty with the warehouses and ferries though. Honestly I thought it was a script misstep to have the hospital completely evacuated when it blew.

Trekker4747 · December 19 2008, 10:47 PM

It's interesting no one saw the hideous nurse with hairy legs and argyle socks walking around and going into a DA's room.

Garak · December 19 2008, 10:51 PM

The blue sonar vision was the thing I disliked in the film. I found it to be absolutely ridiculous.

Other than that, it was pretty sweet.

Captain Intrepid · December 19 2008, 11:48 PM

exodus wrote:

Hermey wrote:

The difference is that the assertion was made that Batman doesn't kill.

With his constant reckless freewheeling through town blowing shit up, this Batman obviously doesn't care so much about that rule, except with the psychopathic mass-murdering villain is in his sights.

Most "superheros" say that and comic book fans honestly believe these guys fight villians while tearing up entire city blocks in which no innocent bystander ever gets hurt by falling debris. It's like having cops in a shoot out with robbers and not expecting a random bullet to ricochet and hit somebody innocent by mistake. That's real life and it happens. How many people do you think Storm killed in X2 creating those hurricane funnels to escape the fighter jets?

Batman doesn't kill purposely. We have to accept in real world believability that random people on the sidelines or henchmen do get hurt or killed.

Sure batman kills people.

Trekker4747 · December 19 2008, 11:53 PM

Robin: "Batman, don't we have a rule about killing people?"
Batman: "What's that?! I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my high-powered machine gun and the yells and cries of hundreds of dying enemy soldiers!"

Timby · December 20 2008, 01:04 AM

Scrooge4747 wrote:

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my high-powered machine gun and the yells and cries of hundreds of dying japs!"

Ugh.

I'm sorry, Trekker, but I just can't let that one slide, no more than I could any other racial slur of the sort. I have to give you an infraction for that.

T'Baio · December 20 2008, 01:44 AM

I'm pretty sure he was just satirizing the sentiments, language and absurdity of the time. I don't really think that's necessary.

Brian · December 20 2008, 01:53 AM

I agree.

December 19 2008, 04:54 AM	#47
T'Baio Admiral Location: Ontario, Canada	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? The guy somehow put enough explosives in a multi ward hospital to completely level it. let alone the ferry's and warehouses. And this hospital was supposed to be under a watchful eye because Dent was in it! __________________ Posthuman: A Science Fiction Web Series at www.sfntv.com and www.whatisameme.com, on the TrekBBS, and on the social network.

December 19 2008, 04:29 PM	#49
Brian Vice Admiral Location: Brian	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? The difference is that the assertion was made that Batman doesn't kill. With his constant reckless freewheeling through town blowing shit up, this Batman obviously doesn't care so much about that rule, except with the psychopathic mass-murdering villain is in his sights. __________________ Rut nga’chuq loDpu’, rut nga’chuq be’pu’. yiqimHa’!

December 19 2008, 04:38 PM	#50
Othello Commodore	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? Maggie Gyllenhall!! Bleech!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both her acting performance and looks were HORRID!!! I want Katie Holmes back!!! She was a better actress and is WAYYYYY better looking.

December 19 2008, 10:47 PM	#54
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? It's interesting no one saw the hideous nurse with hairy legs and argyle socks walking around and going into a DA's room. __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.

December 19 2008, 10:51 PM	#55
Garak Bitches Love Khan	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? The blue sonar vision was the thing I disliked in the film. I found it to be absolutely ridiculous. Other than that, it was pretty sweet. __________________ When life gives you lemons, order the lobster.

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December 19 2008, 11:53 PM	#57
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? Robin: "Batman, don't we have a rule about killing people?" Batman: "What's that?! I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of my high-powered machine gun and the yells and cries of hundreds of dying enemy soldiers!" __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical. Last edited by Timby; December 21 2008 at 08:33 PM. Reason: Edited per user request.

December 20 2008, 01:44 AM	#59
T'Baio Admiral Location: Ontario, Canada	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? I'm pretty sure he was just satirizing the sentiments, language and absurdity of the time. I don't really think that's necessary. __________________ Posthuman: A Science Fiction Web Series at www.sfntv.com and www.whatisameme.com, on the TrekBBS, and on the social network.

December 20 2008, 01:53 AM	#60
Brian Vice Admiral Location: Brian	Re: What do you dislike about The Dark Knight? I agree. __________________ Rut nga’chuq loDpu’, rut nga’chuq be’pu’. yiqimHa’!