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Old December 12 2008, 01:47 AM   #76
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Re: Secret Invasion: The End - SPOILERS!

That's because you two dimwits are just flamebaiting in every comicbook-related thread.
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Old December 12 2008, 01:51 AM   #77
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Bendis is talking out of his ass. Emma hasnt "straddled both lines for a long time" she has been good for close to 20 years.
No, she's pure evil. She just likes kids.
No, she has been a bona fide good guy for years.

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Hey, Thrall, is it just me or has noone responded to our larger point that Marvel under Jemas (and now JoeyQ) has been putting out mostly garbage for years?
Mainly because you are wrong. Plus Jemas hasnt been involved in the creative side of Marvel for years.
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Old December 12 2008, 02:10 AM   #78
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Re: Secret Invasion: The End - SPOILERS!

I enjoyed SI for the most part, although it didn't pan out quite like I was expecting. I was expecting something more along the lines of a protracted Skrull entrenchment on Earth, then a super-hero resistance effort with a big final battle finally routing the Skrulls. After all the build-up and secrets and hype, having the whole thing take place in less than a day (Marvel time, of course) seemed a little anti-climactic.
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Old December 12 2008, 02:27 AM   #79
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Yeah I always assumed "Dark Reign" was going to mean the Skrulls won and occupied Earth or still remained in force in some shape or form. So that was an interesting twist that the invincible numerous Skrulls just got boned like that
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Old December 12 2008, 02:58 AM   #80
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That's because you two dimwits are just flamebaiting in every comicbook-related thread.
So not being willing to happily swallow whatever shite Joey Q's Marvel decides to try to feed us = flamebaiting...gotcha!
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Old December 12 2008, 03:02 AM   #81
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Mainly because you are wrong. Plus Jemas hasnt been involved in the creative side of Marvel for years.
I know he hasn't, but he was the one that started them down this road, and Joey Q is his clone editorially.

As for being wrong...well, what sold more books Early-Mid 90s Marvel 616 (~ the time X-Men Vol2 #1 came out) or the Ultimateverse-wannabe Marvel 616 of the publishing Sith Lords Jemas and Quesieda?
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Old December 12 2008, 03:09 AM   #82
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the tie-ins were pretty fun, but the main event was pretty lame. hopefully "Dark Reign" won't take very long and the Marvelverse will get back to a better status soon.
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Old December 13 2008, 10:43 AM   #83
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I just flicked through this issue again. Have a very careful look at the spread when Stark brings down the Skrull ship full of the people the Skrulls had captured and replaced.

It seems it wasn't just S.H.I.E.L.D. and HYDRA agents and superheroes they replaced...
Holy crap! Agent Kay was right!
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Old December 13 2008, 11:27 AM   #84
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^I'm amazed Yu managed to resist chucking Howard the Duck in there for a change.
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Old December 14 2008, 10:03 AM   #85
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Something tells me the ramifications of Secret Invasion will be felt for a while, which might not be a bad thing.
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Old December 14 2008, 05:57 PM   #86
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Something tells me the ramifications of Secret Invasion will be felt for a while, which might not be a bad thing.
For a while meaning up to a year until the next superevent.. what did we feel from House of M? Couple of 2nd and 3rd tiers de-mutated but the main cast is fine.

Civil War? About the only thing still lasting is Steve Rogers being dad and Bucky taking over the uniform.

Face it.. as long as it sells Marvel and DC aregoing to milk everything out of their books. If crap storytelling but shiny pictures sell they'll do that and from what i hear at least Marvel is doing fine with their mega-events so expect them to do it on a routine basis.
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Old December 14 2008, 06:03 PM   #87
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For a while meaning up to a year until the next superevent.. what did we feel from House of M? Couple of 2nd and 3rd tiers de-mutated but the main cast is fine.
Well it's been a major plot point of every X-title sofar, but hey, that'S no ramification, right?

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Civil War? About the only thing still lasting is Steve Rogers being dad and Bucky taking over the uniform.
Then there's Tony Stark being in charge of SHIELD (well, not anymore but hey) among other things...
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Old December 14 2008, 06:43 PM   #88
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^Plus nearly two year's worth of New Avengers storylines and it's constantly referred to in Amazing Spider-Man.
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Old December 14 2008, 07:39 PM   #89
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Plus the whole 'SHRA' is still in effect. For the most part, I have been liking the Marvel Events much more than the DC because they flow better (which the exception of the Sinestro Corps War).

Avengers Disassembled led to House of M which lead to Civil War which lead to Dark Reign. WWH and SI have both not been super-integral to that flow except in showing how we got from CW to DR (but were overlong, even if entertaining). To me, it really does flow together and tackles the problem of "Gods Among Men" in an interesting long-term way. The nice thing about it is that it is also relatively explain-able while Final Crisis and all the stuff before that is fairly convoluted.
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Old December 14 2008, 09:45 PM   #90
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Final Crisis? That's fine, so long as you accept that being killed and defeated in a brutal, humiliating fashion grants Darkseid unlimited power in a secret instant that no one can stop. Megatron from Beast Wars/Machines found that plot entirely plausible.
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