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Old November 3 2008, 09:15 PM   #31
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Something I did to disprove someone in an MSN convo.

"No way could the Millenium Falcon ever be a Trek ship."



Also, if you're the type who desperatley tries to explain little VFX things, then this is perfect for the FC battle scene .

Stay tuned, I've got a non-Trek concept coming up.
But Star Trek has it's Millenium Falcon. It's called the Defiant.

Oh and in regards to your last non-trek ship, I like how you think:

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=68027

I have done a version of this ship without the big parabolic dishes on each end using the gold and black sections as the entire drive system. it looks much better.
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Old November 6 2008, 05:59 AM   #32
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IDK, the big dishes are kinda what makes that ship look unique, sojourner.

Anyways, update on the design I've temporarily dubbed "mothership". Scale is provided by a craptastic Connie Refit outline (look at the foundry section )

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...thership20.png

New "Lighthouse" module with the forward FTL engine and the gravitic sensor dish (without which the ship would be unable to navigate reliably at FTL speeds).

She's not just a sleeper ship... there has to be accomodations for the main crew, including the possibility of a generational trip, fabrication facilities, refineries for practically any material needs imaginable. As such, the power needs are immense. At least 8 fusion reactors provide shipwide power, while a massive vacumn energy extraction well serves to power the FTL drives. Additionally, incredibly large fuel reserves are kept onboard to supply all this.

I'm imagining a crew of around 6-12,000ish, with a few hundred thousand colonists in cryo, give or take.

As previously stated, the FTL drives are a space warp drive (need a really cool name for them... I'll think of one). One drive contracts space in front of the ship, and the other expands space in front of it.

Defense is provided by a number of point-defense laser turrets located at various points, as encounters with a heavily armed foe is extremely unlikely, considering the lack of known alien life (and the unlikely possibility that such life would be hostile) and the highly regulated nature of space travel.
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Old November 6 2008, 07:34 AM   #33
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I really like the USS Durendal design, it pulls together the Excelsior/Oberth/Enterprise-B highlights. I'd like to put together a physical model of this one

Can I ask what designs you had in mind when designing this ship?

I'm thinking Oberth'ish for the nacelle design, excelsior for the majority of the primary and secondary hull and Enterprise-B for the secondary hull/deflector design.

I also really like the USS Eldrige design, I've always liked the "Stargazer" class but have never been a big fan of unnecessary extra warp nacelles which your designs solves. From the side profile its hard to see what you have done with the saucer section. What has been added to the saucer section?
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Old November 6 2008, 07:44 AM   #34
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I like the side view, not sure about the "arrowhead" top view. That shape is beginning to be too prevalent.
I disagree, the arrowhead design should become prevalent in new starship design IMHO. If you think about it most TOS ships have a circular primary hull, as do TOS movie ships. TNG, DS9 and Voyager ships dont really have a standard saucer section design. I think that the ship design Post TNG would start to have a similar design and "arrowhead" seems to be a logical similar pattern. The Nova class (which I like) plus the Promethus (maybe I'm screwing up the name from the Voyager episode, but the Multi-Vector Assault mode ship). A standardized starship design makes more sense to me then the TNG era designs of Galaxy, Intrepid, Soverign, Akira, etc. Where the saucer design is inconsistent.
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Old November 6 2008, 08:03 AM   #35
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The "Author" remindes me a little bit of this:
[COLOR=#0066cc]http://www.starfleet-museum.org/avenger-predator.htm[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#0066cc]The predator would have made a cool "Kelvin".....[/COLOR]
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Old November 6 2008, 08:45 AM   #36
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I really like the USS Durendal design, it pulls together the Excelsior/Oberth/Enterprise-B highlights. I'd like to put together a physical model of this one

Can I ask what designs you had in mind when designing this ship?

I'm thinking Oberth'ish for the nacelle design, excelsior for the majority of the primary and secondary hull and Enterprise-B for the secondary hull/deflector design.

I also really like the USS Eldrige design, I've always liked the "Stargazer" class but have never been a big fan of unnecessary extra warp nacelles which your designs solves. From the side profile its hard to see what you have done with the saucer section. What has been added to the saucer section?
I was thinking of the Excelsior and the Sovereign, mainly, and I added touches of Ent-B and Obereth for the Durendal.

With regards to the Eldridge, she's got sensor blisters on the topside near the front and the aft hull has a block-style engineering hull-let which holds the warp core horizantally and of course attaches to the nacelle pylon.


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The "Author" remindes me a little bit of this:
[COLOR=#0066cc]http://www.starfleet-museum.org/avenger-predator.htm[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0066cc][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0066cc]The predator would have made a cool "Kelvin".....[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0066cc][/COLOR]
Ok, you caught me. I was thinking 24th Century Predator-Class when I designed the Anhur. I've always been a huge fan of Masao's Starfleet Museum.
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Old November 14 2008, 09:08 AM   #37
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Update on the mothership:

LINK

Decided on a color scheme and redesigned the Lighthouse. I thought something other than grey would be fun.
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Old November 20 2008, 08:27 AM   #38
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Cardassian R & D has been busy...


... any similarity to any known Federation vessels is pure coincidence.
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Old November 21 2008, 08:24 AM   #39
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Forward / Rear Views, please? Cutaway, please?
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Old December 8 2008, 09:42 AM   #40
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Here's a little something.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...UniChart_A.png

Inspired by CuttingEdge's thread in Gen Trek about redesigning the Starfleet uniforms from scratch.

A little more practical and injected a 21st century sense of style into it (Appropriate, and plenty of precedence. Each series and film is definitley influenced by the era its produced in to enhance the heroic look of their heroes.)

And, Hellsgate, I'll try to get some other views when I can render the ship from alternate perspectives without it looking like ass.
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Old March 29 2009, 07:29 AM   #41
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Something new, JJ-style-ish:

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Old August 20 2009, 04:11 AM   #42
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New STO ship design.

Doesn't look familiar.

Not one bit.

Edit: Parody. Check my Anhur-Class. :P
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Old August 20 2009, 05:30 AM   #43
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New STO ship design.

Doesn't look familiar.

Not one bit.
i like it
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Old August 20 2009, 01:17 PM   #44
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Here's a little something.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...UniChart_A.png

Inspired by CuttingEdge's thread in Gen Trek about redesigning the Starfleet uniforms from scratch.

A little more practical and injected a 21st century sense of style into it (Appropriate, and plenty of precedence. Each series and film is definitley influenced by the era its produced in to enhance the heroic look of their heroes.)

And, Hellsgate, I'll try to get some other views when I can render the ship from alternate perspectives without it looking like ass.
Agree with your reasoing there, the variety of uniforms is cool, especially with respects to practicality, while still maintaining a coherent look
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Old August 20 2009, 06:38 PM   #45
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Something I did to disprove someone in an MSN convo.

"No way could the Millenium Falcon ever be a Trek ship."



Also, if you're the type who desperatley tries to explain little VFX things, then this is perfect for the FC battle scene .

Stay tuned, I've got a non-Trek concept coming up.
TREK's answer to the Millenium Falcon? Already done: it's called Sisko's Defiant. The only thing Sisko's ship (seemingly) can't do that Han Solo's ship could is land on a planet. And maybe the Defiant can do that, too.
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