Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs

Jim Johnson · December 3 2008, 08:56 PM

http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6619516.html

I've seen articles covering layoffs all over the publishing biz, plus Wizards of the Coast. Terrible time for it to happen. My condolences to all who are now suddenly out of work at this time of year.

JD · December 4 2008, 01:00 AM

Wow, I'm really sorry to hear about this.

Scott Pearson · December 4 2008, 02:15 AM

Overall economy aside, it's already a difficult time for the publishing industry. Bookstores are changing their whole stock model as they shift to selling backlist through their websites . . . the average new hardcover gets about three months on the shelf before aggressive returns hit. There are still lots of people that need to pick a book off the shelf before they buy it, but if the book has already been returned, they're not going to find it.

I wish some of the big websites would create virtual book shelves so you could look at spines and then with a click look at covers, something that would help an online browser capture the feel of quickly looking along the shelves of your favorite section.

Allyn Gibson · December 4 2008, 02:49 AM

Scott Pearson wrote:

I wish some of the big websites would create virtual book shelves so you could look at spines and then with a click look at covers, something that would help an online browser capture the feel of quickly looking along the shelves of your favorite section.

The online retailer that can recreate the browsing experience is going to reap massive rewards. Not just because they're going to see their sales increase, but because they're going to have a product they can patent and sell to other online retailers.

The problem with online retailers today is that they're so directed. You search for what you want by using product names and keywords. But you miss out on so much that way. I can walk in a Barnes & Noble and wander at random from section to section, picking up books as the spirit moves me, sometimes based on the cover, sometimes based on just being random. But their website doesn't give me that. And giving me suggestions based on things I've bought in the past is useful, but it's not even in the same league.

JD · December 4 2008, 03:28 AM

I don't know if it's quite what you're talking about, but they are doing something a little bit like what you are talking about on the Borders website.

Scott Pearson · December 4 2008, 03:58 AM

Didn't mean to derail the subject . . . I'm still worried about the good folks at Simon & Schuster who just got the rug pulled out from under them at the worst time of year.

JAG · December 4 2008, 12:26 PM

Very sorry to hear this especially at this time of year.

TGTheodore · December 4 2008, 06:23 PM

JAG wrote:

Very sorry to hear this especially at this time of year.

Yes, I'm so sorry as well. This is my second Christmas season unemployed. I sincerely hope those laid off can find other positions as soon as possible.

--Ted

Allyn Gibson · December 4 2008, 06:44 PM

I once got laid off, at the company's Christmas Eve party. As I was walking in, my supervisor pulled me aside, let me know that the company was letting me go.

Yeah, that Christmas party was a downer. :/

The next day, I was having Christmas dinner with my parents and my sister. My sister asked me how work was going. "Got laid off yesterday," I said; I hadn't told anyone yet. Kinda cast a pall on the entire dinner.

Brendan Moody · December 4 2008, 07:25 PM

It's been reported that Trek editor Marco Palmieri was among those laid off yesterday.

David cgc · December 4 2008, 07:28 PM

Ouch. I wish him (and the others) luck.

JAG · December 4 2008, 08:07 PM

That really hurts.

Rat Boy · December 4 2008, 08:09 PM

Well, this sucks. No better way to put it.

Steve Roby · December 4 2008, 08:24 PM

Brendan Moody wrote:

It's been reported that Trek editor Marco Palmieri was among those laid off yesterday.

If true, that's bad news for Marco (and I can relate, being unemployed myself). But it's also bad news for Star Trek books fans.

Insert long stream of your favourite cusswords here.

ETA: I just noticed that Robert Greenberger wrote the article, so I assume it's accurate.

Insert longer stream of your favourite cusswords here.

JAG · December 4 2008, 08:33 PM

We still have Margaret Clark.

December 3 2008, 08:56 PM	#1
Jim Johnson Writer Location: Northern VA	Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6619516.html I've seen articles covering layoffs all over the publishing biz, plus Wizards of the Coast. Terrible time for it to happen. My condolences to all who are now suddenly out of work at this time of year. __________________ Niners aren't linear, we're everywhen. Mirror Universe: Shards and Shadows: "A Terrible Beauty" \| SNW VII: "Solemn Duty" \| SNW 09: "Home Soil" \| SNW 10: "Signal to Noise" Last edited by Jim Johnson; December 4 2008 at 05:33 PM.

December 4 2008, 01:00 AM	#2
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs Wow, I'm really sorry to hear about this. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

December 4 2008, 02:15 AM	#3
Scott Pearson Writer Location: St. Paul, Minnesota	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs Overall economy aside, it's already a difficult time for the publishing industry. Bookstores are changing their whole stock model as they shift to selling backlist through their websites . . . the average new hardcover gets about three months on the shelf before aggressive returns hit. There are still lots of people that need to pick a book off the shelf before they buy it, but if the book has already been returned, they're not going to find it. I wish some of the big websites would create virtual book shelves so you could look at spines and then with a click look at covers, something that would help an online browser capture the feel of quickly looking along the shelves of your favorite section. __________________ Myriad Universes: Shattered Light is still in stores, including my novella Honor in the Night. http://www.yeahsure.net http://scottpearson.livejournal.com/

December 4 2008, 03:28 AM	#5
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs I don't know if it's quite what you're talking about, but they are doing something a little bit like what you are talking about on the Borders website. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

December 4 2008, 03:58 AM	#6
Scott Pearson Writer Location: St. Paul, Minnesota	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs Didn't mean to derail the subject . . . I'm still worried about the good folks at Simon & Schuster who just got the rug pulled out from under them at the worst time of year. __________________ Myriad Universes: Shattered Light is still in stores, including my novella Honor in the Night. http://www.yeahsure.net http://scottpearson.livejournal.com/

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December 4 2008, 12:26 PM	#7
JAG Vice Admiral Location: JAG	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs Very sorry to hear this especially at this time of year. __________________ But... we're Star Trek fans. As logic is to Vulcans, as honour to Klingons, so is griping on the Internet to us.....Trent Roman

December 4 2008, 06:44 PM	#9
Allyn Gibson Rear Admiral Location: South Pennsyltucky	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs I once got laid off, at the company's Christmas Eve party. As I was walking in, my supervisor pulled me aside, let me know that the company was letting me go. Yeah, that Christmas party was a downer. :/ The next day, I was having Christmas dinner with my parents and my sister. My sister asked me how work was going. "Got laid off yesterday," I said; I hadn't told anyone yet. Kinda cast a pall on the entire dinner. __________________ "When David Marcus cited the great thinkers of history -- "Newton, Einstein, Surak" -- Newt Gingrich did not make his list." -- 24 January 2012 allyngibson.net

December 4 2008, 07:25 PM	#10
Brendan Moody Vice Admiral Location: Providence	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs It's been reported that Trek editor Marco Palmieri was among those laid off yesterday. __________________ The Stars at Noonday

December 4 2008, 07:28 PM	#11
David cgc Vice Admiral	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs Ouch. I wish him (and the others) luck. __________________ “I come here to have fun and fuck around merrily. I expect to showered by all kind of random crap.” — iguana_tonante

December 4 2008, 08:07 PM	#12
JAG Vice Admiral Location: JAG	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs That really hurts. __________________ But... we're Star Trek fans. As logic is to Vulcans, as honour to Klingons, so is griping on the Internet to us.....Trent Roman

December 4 2008, 08:09 PM	#13
Rat Boy Vice Admiral Location: Home of the World Champion San Francisco Giants!	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs Well, this sucks. No better way to put it.

December 4 2008, 08:33 PM	#15
JAG Vice Admiral Location: JAG	Re: Simon and Schuster cuts 35 jobs We still have Margaret Clark. __________________ But... we're Star Trek fans. As logic is to Vulcans, as honour to Klingons, so is griping on the Internet to us.....Trent Roman