Terminator-210 "Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point" - D/G-SPO

[nx1701g]

Siwilliams wrote:

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I am surprised that has not happened in a comic book, or has it

It has. The Humans won (if not for Ripley's intervention then the Terminators would have won).

[Siwilliams]

nx1701g wrote:

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It has. The Humans won (if not for Ripley's intervention then the Terminators would have won).

Interesting, have not seen or read the comics

[nx1701g]

Siwilliams wrote:

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Interesting, have not seen or read the comics

It was a very limited release. Actually I had to order mine from eBay.

[Lindley]

Ryan8bit wrote:

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I mean, John Henry should learn the ten commandments? Give me a break.

They're a pretty decent moral framework, so I don't see that as religious nuttery. Not all of them are entirely applicable to an AI, but still......

I suppose the Three Laws provide the same basic framework, although there are probably legal issues with using those.

[Ryan8bit]

Lindley wrote:

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They're a pretty decent moral framework, so I don't see that as religious nuttery. Not all of them are entirely applicable to an AI, but still......

Most of them aren't applicable, which is why I find the concept ridiculous, and it's the kind of thing a nut would say. Just because someone is immoral should you beat them over the head with a Bible? Being religious and preaching the Bible in such a fashion just rubs me the wrong way.

Imagine if I caught you stealing something from a store. Wouldn't it sound dumb if I said, "Thou shalt not steal!!!"? It's just preachy and arrogant.

[Tim]

Ryan8bit wrote:

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Most of them aren't applicable, which is why I find the concept ridiculous, and it's the kind of thing a nut would say. Just because someone is immoral should you beat them over the head with a Bible? Being religious and preaching the Bible in such a fashion just rubs me the wrong way.

The problem is that John Henry is amoral; I agree that the Commandments are a good starting point for morality, irrespective of the exact phrasing.

[Ryan8bit]

Tim M wrote:

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The problem is that John Henry is amoral; I agree that the Commandments are a good starting point for morality, irrespective of the exact phrasing.

True, he is amoral, but I was just making an analogy to an immoral human and essentially how a Bible thumper solves a problem.

I think the Golden Rule (or a variant of it) is better than the ten commandments. It's more logical, more concise, and more applicable. It sums up what's good about the ten commandments in one easy rule. Unless verbosity and length is the goal, then why not the Ma'at?

[Lindley]

Well, naming something that fewer audience members have even heard of would not have the same effect. In this case I think the connotation of the line is more important than the specifics. And Ellison has been established as having read the Bible, so that particular reference fits his character well.