Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading - Page 2

Admiral Buzzkill · November 24 2008, 03:42 AM

The thing's already made enough money in the first weekend that sequels are virtually assured.

FalTorPan · November 24 2008, 04:37 AM

It was okay -- not great, but okay. It was far better than I had anticipated. My fiancee had read the books, and she didn't seem to enjoy the movie as much as I did.

OmahaStar · November 24 2008, 03:36 PM

I went in with very low expectations. It didn't even meet them. The room was packed, and the audience was laughing almost constantly.

The movie isn't a comedy. They are laughing because it's so bad. It was almost like they took the scene from Star Wars 2 where Ani is saying stuff like "I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead." added in with "Your skin is soft. Not like the sand." and expanded that shit to two hours plus.

In a scene that is supposed to be completely, deadly serious with Eddie glowing, the entire room broke out in hysterical laughter, which continued for the next several minutes.

I'm not sure how anyone can call this "excellent" as it was horrible. There were no redeeming qualities to it. Nothing at all.

Captain Craig · November 24 2008, 04:56 PM

OmahaStar wrote:

The room was packed, and the audience was laughing almost constantly.

The movie isn't a comedy. They are laughing because it's so bad.

I feel inclined to agree with you. My date, 31yr old woman, asked me not once but twice why there were giggles and snickering. She was enjoying the movie.

There was an 11-12yr old girl about 3 seats down and she was giddy the whole time. My answer to my date was that some were likely snickering cause of the cheesiness and some were giggling, like the 11yr old just down from us, because it was just what they imagined.

Personally I was laughing on the inside for just how bad the acting and dialoge was.

Dream · November 24 2008, 09:59 PM

I didn't have any problems with the acting. I wasn't expecting academy award level performances obviously.

I'll admit many of the supporting cast were better then the two leading actors though. The older adult actors that played Charlie (Bella's dad), Billy and Carlisle were the best out of the cast.

Thrall · November 24 2008, 10:27 PM

Anyone remember when Vampires were scary? Say what you will about Anne Rice, but her vamps were at least evil. I blame Joss Whedon for this. He's the one who invented the cuddly, heroic Vampire in love with a social outcast human(who also happens to be special). I mean, the dude even has Angel's hair! This dynamic has been copied a million times over now, from Underworld to Tru Blood. But at least with those I get to see Rogue's titties and Kate Beckinsale's ass out of it. This movie is to Buffy what Nickelback is to Metallica. It's the watered down, mediocre version of the same damn thing.

And considering how the two lead actors were slagging off the books in interviews, it doesn't surprise me how bad this movie was. My favorite quote was that the books were "The romantic fantasy of a bored Mormon housewife, who is clearly substituting herself for Bella". Or something like that.

JoeZhang · November 24 2008, 10:50 PM

Is this an american thing? I've never heard of it or the books? I saw some posters for it at the Cinema today and it looks like something for the 9-14 crowd? is that the intended audience?

Dream · November 24 2008, 11:04 PM

JoeZhang wrote:

Is this an american thing? I've never heard of it or the books?

It's kind of popular in america. The books are aimed at teens. It's mainly romance with vampires thrown in.

Steve Mollmann · November 24 2008, 11:09 PM

io9 has a hilarious compilation of reactions to the books and the movie. My favorite was a list of reasons that the movie was better, most of them being dumb things from the book that didn't make it into the movie.

Dream · November 24 2008, 11:12 PM

Steve Mollmann wrote:

My favorite was a list of reasons that the movie was better, most of them being dumb things from the book that didn't make it into the movie.

Yeah, I saw that list a few days ago. I agree with it for the most part. There were way too many "EDWARD IS HOT!" paragraphs in the book and the movie managed to cut out much of that. Also the movie has a better climax compared to the book.

Captain Craig · November 24 2008, 11:14 PM

Dream wrote:

JoeZhang wrote:

Is this an american thing? I've never heard of it or the books?

It's kind of popular in america. The books are aimed at teens. It's mainly romance with vampires thrown in.

Well its what Stephanie Myers is calling vampires.
No fangs
See their reflection
Can walk in daylight

I've been told that garlic, crosses and silver aren't a factor either.
Meant to ask if a stake in the heart is involved in the Myer-verse regarding "vampires".

I prefer to think of the Cullens and any other "vamps" as really immortal hemophagiacs(blood lusters/drinkers). It's really more applicable.

I am tired of hearing people defend the "vampires" as saying there are no rules for vamps. Sorry but there are some rules. Love it all you like but there are certain rules for vampires. Some flexibility on some lore but the "vamps" here are not vamps...except in name.

JoeZhang · November 25 2008, 12:24 AM

Captain Craig wrote:

Dream wrote:

JoeZhang wrote:

Is this an american thing? I've never heard of it or the books?

It's kind of popular in america. The books are aimed at teens. It's mainly romance with vampires thrown in.

Well its what Stephanie Myers is calling vampires.
No fangs
See their reflection
Can walk in daylight

I've been told that garlic, crosses and silver aren't a factor either.
Meant to ask if a stake in the heart is involved in the Myer-verse regarding "vampires".

I prefer to think of the Cullens and any other "vamps" as really immortal hemophagiacs(blood lusters/drinkers). It's really more applicable.

I am tired of hearing people defend the "vampires" as saying there are no rules for vamps. Sorry but there are some rules. Love it all you like but there are certain rules for vampires. Some flexibility on some lore but the "vamps" here are not vamps...except in name.

That's a joke right? the "rules" and myths about vampires vary from country to country. There aren't any set rules.

Captain Craig · November 25 2008, 12:30 AM

^^^^
No. I'm serious. I understand that from culture to culture the lore has variances. I said as much. I said I understand the flexibility that various incarnations show. Did you take that into account?

By and large however, vampires, do have some fairly "set" rules when portrayed in tv, books and film ever since Bram Stokers. Those have been toyed with and tweaked but largely vamps have in all portrayals had commonality. Frankly the vamps of Twilight barely appear to be branches of the same family tree from other vamps of the last 150yrs in culture reference.

ancient · November 25 2008, 12:34 AM

Well, these are the Gary Stu Vamps, who are perfect and awesome and HOT and have no weaknesses.

So they're appropriate for this kind of self-insert romantic stuff for the kids.

Dream · November 25 2008, 02:25 AM

ancient wrote:

Well, these are the Gary Stu Vamps, who are perfect and awesome and HOT and have no weaknesses.

All the female vampires in this series are also supposed to be hot too. It makes me wonder why the vamps haven't taken over everything yet.

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November 24 2008, 03:42 AM	#16
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading The thing's already made enough money in the first weekend that sequels are virtually assured. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

November 24 2008, 04:37 AM	#17
FalTorPan Vice Admiral Location: Out there... thataway.	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading It was okay -- not great, but okay. It was far better than I had anticipated. My fiancee had read the books, and she didn't seem to enjoy the movie as much as I did. __________________ Watch ASTRONUTS! Visit Trekplace! Check out my personal website!

November 24 2008, 03:36 PM	#18
OmahaStar Disrespectful of his betters Location: OmahaStar	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading I went in with very low expectations. It didn't even meet them. The room was packed, and the audience was laughing almost constantly. The movie isn't a comedy. They are laughing because it's so bad. It was almost like they took the scene from Star Wars 2 where Ani is saying stuff like "I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead." added in with "Your skin is soft. Not like the sand." and expanded that shit to two hours plus. In a scene that is supposed to be completely, deadly serious with Eddie glowing, the entire room broke out in hysterical laughter, which continued for the next several minutes. I'm not sure how anyone can call this "excellent" as it was horrible. There were no redeeming qualities to it. Nothing at all. __________________ "Sorry. Wrong movie, buddy."

November 24 2008, 09:59 PM	#20
Dream Admiral	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading I didn't have any problems with the acting. I wasn't expecting academy award level performances obviously. I'll admit many of the supporting cast were better then the two leading actors though. The older adult actors that played Charlie (Bella's dad), Billy and Carlisle were the best out of the cast.

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November 24 2008, 10:27 PM	#21
Thrall Commodore Location: A Quesada Free Zone.	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading Anyone remember when Vampires were scary? Say what you will about Anne Rice, but her vamps were at least evil. I blame Joss Whedon for this. He's the one who invented the cuddly, heroic Vampire in love with a social outcast human(who also happens to be special). I mean, the dude even has Angel's hair! This dynamic has been copied a million times over now, from Underworld to Tru Blood. But at least with those I get to see Rogue's titties and Kate Beckinsale's ass out of it. This movie is to Buffy what Nickelback is to Metallica. It's the watered down, mediocre version of the same damn thing. And considering how the two lead actors were slagging off the books in interviews, it doesn't surprise me how bad this movie was. My favorite quote was that the books were "The romantic fantasy of a bored Mormon housewife, who is clearly substituting herself for Bella". Or something like that. __________________ "Spider-Man doesn't have fans. He has people who follow him. Like Jesus. Now I have fans! People who adore and worship every little thing I do or say. Like David Koresh. Or The Jonas Brothers."

November 24 2008, 10:50 PM	#22
JoeZhang Rear Admiral	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading Is this an american thing? I've never heard of it or the books? I saw some posters for it at the Cinema today and it looks like something for the 9-14 crowd? is that the intended audience?

November 24 2008, 11:09 PM	#24
Steve Mollmann Rear Admiral Location: 2010	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading io9 has a hilarious compilation of reactions to the books and the movie. My favorite was a list of reasons that the movie was better, most of them being dumb things from the book that didn't make it into the movie. __________________ "All of time and space. Everywhere and anywhere, every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?" Exploring the Universe

November 25 2008, 12:30 AM	#28
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading ^^^^ No. I'm serious. I understand that from culture to culture the lore has variances. I said as much. I said I understand the flexibility that various incarnations show. Did you take that into account? By and large however, vampires, do have some fairly "set" rules when portrayed in tv, books and film ever since Bram Stokers. Those have been toyed with and tweaked but largely vamps have in all portrayals had commonality. Frankly the vamps of Twilight barely appear to be branches of the same family tree from other vamps of the last 150yrs in culture reference. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

November 25 2008, 12:34 AM	#29
ancient Vice Admiral Location: United States	Re: Twilight - Movie Discussion and Grading Well, these are the Gary Stu Vamps, who are perfect and awesome and HOT and have no weaknesses. So they're appropriate for this kind of self-insert romantic stuff for the kids. __________________ ---------------------------- Time Travel was and will be confusing