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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old November 22 2008, 10:54 AM   #1
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The Next Generation Season 1

I actually think season 1 is very underrated in these parts... currently watching 11001001. The 24th century Star Trek universe still seemed fresh at this point and the episodes I've been watching recently seem to have aged pretty well.

Anyone else have any love for season 1?
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Old November 22 2008, 07:27 PM   #2
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Of course! TNG was the show that got me into Trek. Season 1 was also the first star trek I ever bought on DVD. Actually, come to think of it I used to own "Encounter at Farpoint" and "Datalore" on VHS when I was like 10, lol.
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Old November 23 2008, 12:47 AM   #3
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I think the man skirts were the bravest thing Trek ever attempted. Sure I thought they looked silly as hell as does everyone else which shows how much bias we have towards such an idea. Plus, we could occasionally to get see the women in skirts.
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Old November 23 2008, 01:07 AM   #4
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On the contrary, when I recently rewatched season 1, I couldn't wait for it to end. Some very poor stories, the look of the show, and the awkward moments as the actors tried to settle into their characters... Nah. It's my all-time least favourite Trek season. It did end on a strong note with Conspiracy and The Neutral Zone.
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Old November 23 2008, 05:13 AM   #5
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The 1st season of TNG is definitely my favorite because it follows TOS closest in terms of style, tone, and execution compared to the later seasons.
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Old November 23 2008, 06:27 PM   #6
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S1 has a lot of good eps in it; very underrated IMO. Then again, I think S2 is probably TNG's best, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt!
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Old November 23 2008, 07:10 PM   #7
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The 1st season of TNG is definitely my favorite because it follows TOS closest in terms of style, tone, and execution compared to the later seasons.
I enjoy TNG Season One despite the horrid episodes. There was still a sense of wonder about exploration. The Enterprise was on it's own, far from home. There was still a weridness and danger about space ("The Last Outpost," as an example). People died (Tasha Yar). It's the same reasons I think Season Two is one of the best seasons of TNG. After the excellent Season Three, TNG became standardized and everything felt and looked the same in terms of storytelling, music and characters. Space became a small town that the Enterprise easily traveresed week-to-week. And the stories were more of galactic ambulance than deep-space exploration.

TNG Season One had a lot of promise of the show with some potentially interesting conflicts that came not from Soap Opera angst, but from wildly different perspectives and ways of approaching problem solving.

For example, EaF set up trigger that Riker and Picard would eventually come to a head when it came Away Missions. The idea that Riker would be in another DeSoto situation. That Picard would have to deal more and more with Crusher and his guilt over Jack Crusher. Perhaps, even the danger of space might've been too much for the ship's civilian population. Of course, they all but vanished after Season Three; only to be seen and heard of a handful of times in the later years.

Alas, only Worf had real conflict that stemed from his Klingon heritage/perspecitive. But even that degenerated into Soap Opera angst when he dealt with the Klingon Empire.

Seson One set up some wonderful opportunites for TNG that were never utilized. Think about it, Picard the consumate Starfleet officer and explorer who never had time for family now has a chance at one with Wesley; helping him become a man that his father could be proud of and thus relieving some of the guilt that he felt over Jack's death.

Or Crusher truly going at it with Picard over putting her son in danger. Her reaction to Picard in "Justice" was lame and flat; perhaps more to do with Gates' performance than the writing. Although, the writing on that episode could've been better. Then again, I preffered the ballsiness of Pulaski over Crusher.

Riker having to force Picard to stay on ship. Or Picard going down despite the protests of Riker and the rest. Then having something horrid happen to him, causing Riker guilt and pain.

But alas, the show we got is the show we got. Season One isn't too bad, it's not great. It's okay and I liked it. Hell, I even liked the streamlined uniform designs of Theiss even though you had to be extremely fit to fit into one.
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Old November 25 2008, 04:37 PM   #8
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I enjoy TNG Season One despite the horrid episodes. There was still a sense of wonder about exploration. The Enterprise was on it's own, far from home. There was still a weridness and danger about space ("The Last Outpost," as an example). People died (Tasha Yar). It's the same reasons I think Season Two is one of the best seasons of TNG. After the excellent Season Three, TNG became standardized and everything felt and looked the same in terms of storytelling, music and characters. Space became a small town that the Enterprise easily traveresed week-to-week. And the stories were more of galactic ambulance than deep-space exploration.
Brilliantly said, it reminds me of a line from Richard Galen in the sixth season episode "The Chase". I can't find the exact quote, but it was something to do with Picard having become akin to a Roman Centurion patrolling the provinces of an overly bloated empire. Perhaps the writers had taken this view too?!
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Old November 25 2008, 04:44 PM   #9
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I like Season 1 because it's pure 80s Trek, something we didn't really get much of beyond the TOS movies. TNG really was a 90s show in its prime.

Season 1 feels very much like what Phase II would have been had it ever come into being. Stories like "Code of Honour" and "Arsenal of Freedom"--they feel very TOS-inspired.

TNG didn't really hit its stride until the 3rd season.
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Old November 25 2008, 06:55 PM   #10
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Another vote here. I found the crew's heroic posturing annoying (Roddenberry's writing), as was Wesley. But we DID have Tasha Yar that year.

And the music in those episodes were just beautiful. I know, everybody hates the synthisizer (I hope I spelled that right), but I loved it.
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Old November 27 2008, 06:55 AM   #11
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I really believe there are many more "hits" than "misses" in the first season...

Encounter at Farpoint - DeForest Kelley cameo and the introduction of Q make this a winner.

The Naked Now - Perhaps produced too early, but we do learn that Data is 'fully functional'. Winner

Code of Honor - "You will have no vaccine and no Lieutenant Yar!!!", ugh. Probably worst episode in all of Trek. Loser

The Last Outpost - Like The Naked Now, a rip of an original Star Trek episode. Still entertaining. Winner

Where No One Has Gone Before - "Space and time and thought are not the seperate things we believe them to be", Winner.

Lonely Among Us - "P for Picard" almost sunk this one... but the B story with the warring alien diplomats make it a winner.

Justice - Almost as bad as Code of Honor, but a hell of a lot more entertaining. Loser

The Battle - Ferengi come back and are less irritating to boot. Interesting insights to Picard's past. Winner

Hide and Q - One of my personal favorites. Great sci-fi premise and John deLancie hamming it up. Winner

Haven - We almost lose Counselor Troi. Damn, that would have been a shame. Loser

The Big Goodbye - This episode already gets enough praise. Winner

Datalore - Brent Spiner in a dual role and the threat of turning Wesley into a torch. Winner

Angel One - Next. Loser

11001001 - Another great sci-fi premise. Binars are an interesting race. Winner

Too Short a Season - The spiritual sequel to A Private Little War. Winner

When the Bough Breaks - Yawn. Gag. Snore. Loser

Home Soil - "Ugly bags of mostly water", yeah... well screw you too. Loser

Coming of Age - Points for setting up Conspiracy, just not enough. Loser

Heart of Glory - When the Klingons still seemed like TOS Klingons. Winner

The Arsenal of Freedom - Arms dealers who are outsmarted by their own weapons, classic. Winner

Symbiosis - Hahahahahahahaha. Love the use of the Prime Directive here. The last three minutes make up for the first 57. Winner

Skin of Evil - Loved the concept here. A skewed take on Who Mourns for Adonais. Winner

We'll Always Have Paris - Seems like it's not only Jimmy Kirk who likes "little blond lab assistants". Winner

Conspiracy - Scorpions have taken over the Federation. Winner

The Neutral Zone - 20th century humans, the return of the Romulans and the first indications of the Borg. Only The Best of Both Worlds was a better season finale.

So, I count 18 out of 25 as winners. Sure there were some awkward moments along the way... but it was the first Star Trek in production in 18 years.
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Old November 27 2008, 03:52 PM   #12
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The Last Outpost - Like The Naked Now, a rip of an original Star Trek episode. Still entertaining. Winner
You have me intrigued. Which TOS episode?
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Old November 28 2008, 06:28 AM   #13
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The Last Outpost - Like The Naked Now, a rip of an original Star Trek episode. Still entertaining. Winner
You have me intrigued. Which TOS episode?
Take your pick, it's got some of the staples - There's the Powerful Advanced Alien, who then goes and Captures Our Heroes and pits them against the Aggressor Species, where the loser Will Be Destroyed and the episode ends in a Pithy Speech about the hallmark of advanced species is Mercy On Our Enemies.

Actually, I'm thinking that episode is a complete combination of every cliche of TOS, with the exception of the Whirlwind Romance. Enjoyable, though, even if it's pretty much only remembered for the scene in the briefing room where Data is confounded by the Chinese finger trap.
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Old November 28 2008, 09:44 AM   #14
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Seaon one has its supporters, I'm one of them myself. I really like its vibe, actually. There's something chilly and distant about it that I like. OTOH, I'm not sure that I would have warmed to the show the way I did if it had continued in that way. I like a lot of what they did with Troi in the first season. Okay, the "I feel great pain/joy/whatever" was irritating, but she did some interesting stuff too, that got moved to other characters in later seasons. Also, Riker didn't have the beard, so that's a mark away, for a start.
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Old November 28 2008, 05:34 PM   #15
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DGCatAniSiri wrote: View Post
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The Last Outpost - Like The Naked Now, a rip of an original Star Trek episode. Still entertaining. Winner
You have me intrigued. Which TOS episode?
Take your pick, it's got some of the staples - There's the Powerful Advanced Alien, who then goes and Captures Our Heroes and pits them against the Aggressor Species, where the loser Will Be Destroyed and the episode ends in a Pithy Speech about the hallmark of advanced species is Mercy On Our Enemies.

Actually, I'm thinking that episode is a complete combination of every cliche of TOS, with the exception of the Whirlwind Romance. Enjoyable, though, even if it's pretty much only remembered for the scene in the briefing room where Data is confounded by the Chinese finger trap.
The one it reminds me the most of is Arena.
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