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Old November 16 2008, 05:00 PM   #1
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I still don't get it.

I actually watched some episodes of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, and noticed the flying sequences even in this series surpassed that of Superman Returns. If Singer had a budget for a good Superman movie, then why did a lot of the flying sequences in the film just suck?
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Old November 16 2008, 05:20 PM   #2
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Re: I still don't get it.

You.... You're kidding, right?
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Old November 16 2008, 05:20 PM   #3
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Re: I still don't get it.

The flying sequences in Superman Returns were vastly superior to those in Lois and Clark. Superman was lit as if he were actually in the sky, rather than lit as if he were actually in a bluescreen stage.
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Old November 16 2008, 06:49 PM   #4
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Re: I still don't get it.

If you really believe that, also keep in mind that the LOIS AND CLARK effects only had to stand up to scrutiny on the smaller TV screen, in the days before wide-screen TVs and HDTV, and the SUPERMAN RETURNS effects had to hold up on the motion picture screen.

Bit difference in the amount of detail, and therefore budget.
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Old November 16 2008, 07:26 PM   #5
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Re: I still don't get it.

Brikar99 wrote: View Post
You.... You're kidding, right?
I'm serious. When I went to see Superman Returns, I expected awesome flying sequences and such and all I got was a lot of CGI, and hardly any closeups.

I watched the pilot episode of Lois & Clark and the flying scenes were just... better...
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Old November 16 2008, 08:16 PM   #6
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Re: I still don't get it.

I thought this was a flame post when I originally read it. This is like my father saying that the originally Buck Rogers effects were better than Farscapes because at least the ship's were made of real models.
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Old November 16 2008, 08:54 PM   #7
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Re: I still don't get it.

The flying effects in Superman Returns weren't that great. They should have shown Superman flying closer to the ground much more so we could get idea of how fast he was moving. Iron Man's flying effects were much better IMO.
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Old November 16 2008, 11:53 PM   #8
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Re: I still don't get it.

darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
I actually watched some episodes of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, and noticed the flying sequences even in this series surpassed that of Superman Returns.
Just when you think you've heard it all...
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Old November 17 2008, 12:57 AM   #9
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Re: I still don't get it.

darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
I watched the pilot episode of Lois & Clark and the flying scenes were just... better...
True. But it wasn't just the flying scenes. Everything about Lois & Clark was just.....better.
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Old November 17 2008, 01:29 AM   #10
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Re: I still don't get it.

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darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
I actually watched some episodes of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, and noticed the flying sequences even in this series surpassed that of Superman Returns.
Just when you think you've heard it all...
I knocked this show too, but out of boredom I rented a copy of season one and found out it wasn't all that bad. Not as good as Smallville or the movies, but it was still entertaining.

What I meant about the flying was the show had more close-ups of Cain flying like the Christopher Reeve films. If that was possible to do in those days, why did the flying sequences in SR look cheesy?
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Old November 17 2008, 02:17 AM   #11
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Re: I still don't get it.

darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
I knocked this show too, but out of boredom I rented a copy of season one and found out it wasn't all that bad. Not as good as Smallville or the movies, but it was still entertaining.




I think I threw up a little. Smallville. Blech.
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Old November 17 2008, 06:08 AM   #12
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darkshadow0001 wrote: View Post
Brikar99 wrote: View Post
You.... You're kidding, right?
I'm serious. When I went to see Superman Returns, I expected awesome flying sequences and such and all I got was a lot of CGI, and hardly any closeups.

I watched the pilot episode of Lois & Clark and the flying scenes were just... better...
...wow... Better must mean something totally different than what I've thought it meant my entire life.
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Old November 17 2008, 05:10 PM   #13
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Re: I still don't get it.

To be fair, Lois and Clark was a well done series for what it was. It was never ever meant to take itself seriously, and therefore should not be held up to the same standards as other shows. Smallville on the other hand simply takes itself too seriously and loses its charm because of that.
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Old November 17 2008, 10:52 PM   #14
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Re: I still don't get it.

Say what you will about SR's flaws, if Superman: the Movie made me believe a man could fly, Returns made me believe a man could fly faster than a speeding bullet.
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Old November 18 2008, 03:24 AM   #15
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Say what you will about SR's flaws, if Superman: the Movie made me believe a man could fly, Returns made me believe a man could fly faster than a speeding bullet.
I'm not saying Superman Returns was a bad movie. In fact, I saw it twice. I'm just saying I don't understand if our technology for effects is supposed to be better today then 10-20 years ago then how come the flying seems more "real" then the Chris Reeve films and Lois & Clark. That's really all I was disappointed with SR. I can still watch the Chris Reeve films and say "wow" to the flying, but with SR, it's just "meh".
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