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Old November 17 2008, 01:56 PM   #16
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Re: The Death of Superman: 16 Years Later

Sixteen year laters...

...it's still totally dull. PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH for eight issues. Oh boy.
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Old November 17 2008, 02:47 PM   #17
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It was gimmicky, but it was good gimmicky. Sad that there's almost nothing left of this epic storyline in current DCU continuity. I think that, to really appreciate it, you have to read the actual comics. The novelization cut out way too much, and while I liked the DVD Movie for itself, it may as well have been a kid's coloring book for how much it told.
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Old November 17 2008, 03:13 PM   #18
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I rather enjoy popping in the fully-dramatized audio version now and again, despite the massive abridgments necessary for time. Some generally very good performances and the sound mix is excellent. It's a significantly better dramatization than Kingdom Come and Knightfall were, IMO.

And now it comes full circle as Doomsday is about to make his first attack in a live-action format on Smallville...and based on the previews, they got the look down fairly good considering how tough it would appear to be.

BTW, the Byrne re-launch troubled me MUCH more than the death of the character did. Dunno why...guess they made it seem as though the post-Crisis changes would be more sweeping than they really turned out to be, relatively speaking. And by the time of Superman 75, I'd chilled on the whole thing a bit.

Though I have to say I totally hated the Electric Supermen. While the old "Superman Red/Superman Blue" stories had a certain appeal to them (in that goofy Silver-age way), it turned into way too much angst and drama the second time around. Bleah.
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Old November 17 2008, 03:37 PM   #19
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I couldn't care less for comics, but your post actually peeked my interest to read "The death of Superman".
Too bad your interest wasn't "piqued".
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Old November 17 2008, 04:08 PM   #20
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My view is that The Death of Superman was just a lead-in to the REAL story, which was Funeral For a Friend. That story is the one with the emotional impact and excellent character work.
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Old November 17 2008, 04:15 PM   #21
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I remember enjoying "Superman" quite a bit at the time - I even really liked the long hair when he came back. It was, of course, a passing style and sensibly changed after a while.
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Old November 17 2008, 04:54 PM   #22
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These were the only post-crisis comics I read up until a couple of years ago. I bought Superman for about a year following the return of Superman (until Luthor destroyed Metropolis) and then felt that they seriously went downhill and became boring, dull, and poorly written again.

My biggest problem with the wonder Death, Funeral, and Return of Superman story is that Superman should have disappeared from the scene for at least a half a year longer or so. The other Supermen really needed more time to be developed. Today it is a shame that Superboy is out of the picture and Steel is relegated to a recurring secondary character.
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Old November 17 2008, 05:23 PM   #23
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I remember it was like "9/11 on the comic book world."
9/11 on the comic book world? I wouldn't compare a comic character's death to a real-life tragedy.

I didn't read comics back in 1993 but, I said to myself (and a comic-loving friend) "Why the Hell would they want to kill off an American hero?!"

I have a Trade Paperback of that story. I never have finished reading it, even after having it for several years. I know Superman comes back from the dead but, the thought of him dying is just too damn much...

You don't kill off American heroes. Period.
So how did you feel about the death of Captain America?
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Old November 17 2008, 05:35 PM   #24
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"Funeral for a Friend" is probably the best part of the saga. Some of the individual parts, like the "Metropolis Mailbag" and Pa Kent's death, were emotionally affecting. The actual "Death" story is, as Steve notes, just Punch-Punch-Punch, though seeing Doomsday tear through the Jurgens-era Justice League was pretty surprising. (No, they weren't big guns, but they'd gone toe-to-toe with some of the DC Universe's biggest foes back in the Giffen era.)

I really liked Steel and Superboy.

I genuinely believed, at the time, that we'd reached the end of an era with Superman.
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Old November 17 2008, 06:32 PM   #25
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Adds to his ever growing list of comic books to devour


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Old November 17 2008, 11:54 PM   #26
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I remember it was like "9/11 on the comic book world."
9/11 on the comic book world? I wouldn't compare a comic character's death to a real-life tragedy.

I didn't read comics back in 1993 but, I said to myself (and a comic-loving friend) "Why the Hell would they want to kill off an American hero?!"

I have a Trade Paperback of that story. I never have finished reading it, even after having it for several years. I know Superman comes back from the dead but, the thought of him dying is just too damn much...

You don't kill off American heroes. Period.
So how did you feel about the death of Captain America?
Don't even get me started on that Bullshit! Killing off Captain America is bad enough but, having Iron Man of all people doing it is just criminal.
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Old November 18 2008, 12:41 AM   #27
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Uh, Iron Man didn't kill Captain America.


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Old November 18 2008, 12:56 AM   #28
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Yep...I remember the Death of Superman and the arguement I had with my mother that he wasn't coming back (I was only fourteen and a little naive about the comic book industry LOL) same deal with Bane breaking Batman's back. I collected pretty much all the issues, never got a copy of the arm band pollybaged Superman #75 though, got a second print newstand edition at the supermarket. I have been contemplating buying the Death and Return of Superman Omnibus that DC released last year.
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Old November 18 2008, 01:02 AM   #29
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I was told something different by a comic-loving former friend. I haven't seen the issue myself. It did seem kinda weird that another one of the Avengers would kill Captain America, though.
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Old November 18 2008, 01:09 AM   #30
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"Funeral for a Friend" is probably the best part of the saga. Some of the individual parts, like the "Metropolis Mailbag" and Pa Kent's death, were emotionally affecting. The actual "Death" story is, as Steve notes, just Punch-Punch-Punch, though seeing Doomsday tear through the Jurgens-era Justice League was pretty surprising. (No, they weren't big guns, but they'd gone toe-to-toe with some of the DC Universe's biggest foes back in the Giffen era.)
I love Blue Beetle, but c'mon... I could take out Blue Beetle. It's hardly a difficult job.
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