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Old November 15 2008, 11:57 PM   #91
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I thought the nod to "Goldfinger" was cool, though.
What nod to GoldFinger.
Strawberry Fields covered in oil in the same pose as the woman covered in gold.
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Old November 16 2008, 12:06 AM   #92
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Also, it's a bit more meta, but Greene's M.O. was broadly similar to Goldfinger's scheme. Get a bunch of a resource, and then boost demand for it through villainy.
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Old November 16 2008, 12:28 AM   #93
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Hugely disappointing, muddled mess of a movie that thinks it needs to out-Bourne Bourne. And enough with the shaky camera work already!

I hope they rehire the creative people from Casino Royale for the next one.
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Old November 16 2008, 12:33 AM   #94
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Very good film. Not as good as Casino Royale, but still kick ass.
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Old November 16 2008, 12:39 AM   #95
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Some of the editing and directing decisions are counterintuitive, but I don't think the writing is that bad, especially in comparison to GoldenEye or Die Another Day.
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Old November 16 2008, 01:31 AM   #96
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It was emotionally similar to Bourne Supremacy, where the plot of both films are driven by the character's rage and desperate need for answers. And they both have similar scenes, the quiet moment in a Russian apartment.

That said, I hated that the car chase was filmed like a Bourne movie, as well as the chase for Mitchell. I do love a lot of the fight choreography, Craig is awesome with the stunts. My favorite is probably when he smacked the handlebars of the Haitian's bike and stole it. I liked Camille, didn't care for Strawberry Fields, in that she was unnecessary and the actress wasn't very good. Greene wasn't much of an imposing villain.

Don't get me wrong I really enjoyed the film. While CR was better, this is still a good sign that Bond films are getting smarter. It was basically what Licence to Kill failed to be. I felt like we had to go on this journey because I was a huge fan of Vesper Lynd but I'm ready for the next one to show a Bond that enjoys his work and has fun. I just hope they don't go overboard.

And my theater didn't show the Trek trailer
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Old November 16 2008, 03:02 AM   #97
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Just got back from it. Y'know... I liked it. Not as good as Casino Royale, but I still liked it. I agree with most of your points, Slim. The comparison to Bourne Supremacy is accurate (even down to the "SLOW THE FUCK DOWN ALREADY!" action sequence editing ) Yeah the villain was weak, but I like that they're back to having a SPECTRE-like organization and Bond's taking down their lackeys one at a time! And yeah, this was definitely Licence to Kill done right!
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Old November 16 2008, 03:27 AM   #98
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Also, it's a bit more meta, but Greene's M.O. was broadly similar to Goldfinger's scheme. Get a bunch of a resource, and then boost demand for it through villainy.
If you compare Quantum of Solace with Goldfinger side-by-side, it would appear as though the overall quality of EON produced 007 films have taken a huge nosedive in the last 44 years.

How can a billion-dollar franchise and a well-oiled machine produce...

It is inexcusable.

Which is why I give this film a grade of "F" for the script and the lackluster direction.

Marc Forster is a good director when it comes to dramas, but considering how close he shot all of the action sequences and the way he failed to connect the audience emotionally to the surroundings, the atmosphere, and the events surrounding the characters in this plot driven film with barely a plot...words escape me.

This is just dreadful, and would be utterly forgettable if not for the fact that it is an official canon film in the EON produced 007 franchise.
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Old November 16 2008, 03:52 AM   #99
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Marc Forster is a good director when it comes to dramas, but considering how close he shot all of the action sequences and the way he failed to connect the audience emotionally to the surroundings, the atmosphere, and the events surrounding the characters in this plot driven film with barely a plot...words escape me.
Reading his background, I have no idea why this guy was given the reigns for the Bond film.
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Old November 16 2008, 03:54 AM   #100
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Barbara Broccoli says that Camille could come back.

When asked if new Bond girl Olga Kurylenko could return, Barbara confirmed there was a strong possibility.

She told Heart: “I think she’s a spectacular actress and she’s done an amazing job in this movie. She blew us away.”

“We would certainly love to have her back. If it’s not in the next movie, then certainly in the future.”
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Old November 16 2008, 04:04 AM   #101
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Marc Forster is a good director when it comes to dramas, but considering how close he shot all of the action sequences and the way he failed to connect the audience emotionally to the surroundings, the atmosphere, and the events surrounding the characters in this plot driven film with barely a plot...words escape me.
Reading his background, I have no idea why this guy was given the reigns for the Bond film.
According to the wikipedia entry on Quantum of Solace, Marc Forster was considered and chosen because he happens to be one of Daniel Craig's personal favorite filmmakers.
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Old November 16 2008, 04:06 AM   #102
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Barbara Broccoli says that Camille could come back.

When asked if new Bond girl Olga Kurylenko could return, Barbara confirmed there was a strong possibility.

She told Heart: “I think she’s a spectacular actress and she’s done an amazing job in this movie. She blew us away.”

“We would certainly love to have her back. If it’s not in the next movie, then certainly in the future.”
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They said the same about Michelle Yeoh from Tomorrow Never Dies (Olga Kurylenko's personal favorite Bond girl) , and look what happened.
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Old November 16 2008, 04:16 AM   #103
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If Daniel Craig is picking directors, hopefully we can get some Matthew "Layer Cake" Vaughn going on.
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Old November 16 2008, 05:20 AM   #104
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Great, great, GREAT continuation of the story from Casino... Gritty, hard-edged and a wild ride to boot...

I don't understand the whole "There's no plot" complaint about this movie... There's an overall reaching plot that is larger than the movie itself.. This is part of a story... The beginning of the James Bond legacy.. This is the backstory of how he became the man he is.

The theme didn't bother me a bit, either..

My only complaint is that we didn't get the Star Trek trailer that I had been led to believe we were going to get.
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Old November 16 2008, 05:26 AM   #105
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If Daniel Craig is picking directors, hopefully we can get some Matthew "Layer Cake" Vaughn going on.
That would not be too difficult considering Sony is responsible for the international distribution of Layer Cake, Casino Royale, and Quantum of Solace.

There is already a working relationship.
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