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Old October 23 2008, 04:39 AM   #91
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

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At the start Mark Walberg says: "We can speculate why certain events happen but in the end we may never know."

So along with that statement and no reasoning at the end, we aren't even sure if it was an eco-friendly message. All anyone in the film was doing was speculating, we don't know why it all happened or exactly what caused it.

Even after they speculated it might be the plants, why lead the entire group through an open field of green grass & trees? Even with all the events in nature you mentioned, none of them just happen for no reason or simply dissapate in thin air after it's done.
We as a species speculate on a great number of things.
Is global warming, this cycle(some say we've cooled but I digress), being impacted by man? Is the ozone hole really an issue or does it fluctuate naturally? Were the plants the villains or something else?

Speculation and a cavalcade of voices makes many think man is having an adverse impact on the planets climate. As a society we banned certain chemicals cause some science heads speculated they might be causing holes in the ozone. Elliot(Whalberg) and the talking heads on TV speculated plants might be the bad guy so that is the narrative path M.Night took us on.

What if for all our self percieved intelligence there are just things we can't grasp? What if Global Warming/Cooling and the Ozone are beyond our full understanding? Likewise we created a boogeyman out of nature in The Happening cause it was our perceptions that said, nature was the dominant constant. Parks. Fields.

As a species our great minds said the solar system revolved around the planet Earth. That the Earth was flat. That you could sail from Spain and end up in India without hitting land. There aren't any measurable units smaller than an atom. We could go on and on.

"...in the end we may never know", to use your Elliot statement, what M.Night is truly trying to convey. Eco-friendly or Eco-indifferent. Maybe its not even entirely an eco message at all. Maybe its something else entirely.
That is part of what I like about this and Lady in the Water. The viewer can take different messages from it and some viewers may not take away the same things. I don't like vagueness in all my movies but its why I enjoy M.Nights movies as a break from the cut and dry straight forwardness of nearly all other movies.

Some people are just not wired to enjoy this type of storytelling and hence the backlash I think.
Yes, completely agreed.
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Old October 23 2008, 07:36 PM   #92
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

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We have a Professor in our department who loves this movie. He has the poster hanging in his office and its signed by Mark Wahlberg. All I can do is laugh every time I see it.
Please tell me it's not a film department. Please.
Maybe he's a Marky Mark fan.
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Old November 4 2008, 03:15 AM   #93
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

I saw this on pay-per-view over the weekend, and I didn't think it was that bad. Sure there was a lot of unintentional (I think) humor, but it was better than The Village.

I took it, as kind of the science equivalent of Signs.

I would say the message of both films is that Religion and Science are both just constructs that humans make up to try to make sense of the unknown.

Also, that coming up with all the answers is for the arm-chair quarterbacks after the fact. What matters during a crisis is surviving the crisis.

But then, you get the odd juxtaposition at the end when our two lovebirds give up surviving and run out to hold hands among the plants, so maybe that surviving bit was optional.

Anyway, not the worst movie I've seen...even last weekend. But, then last weekend I also watched Donnie Darko and Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, so maybe it just seemed better in comparison. I'd give it a solid C.
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Old November 4 2008, 04:14 AM   #94
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

My ranking of M. Night's films (So far, he has proven to be a 2-hit wonder):
  1. Unbreakable - I absolutely loved it for the "deconstruction" of the whole superhero myth.
  2. The Sixth Sense - Over-rated. Worth watching twice just to fit all the pieces together for "the twist" ending that's been seen in virtually any Twilight Zone episode. In my opinion, this one is not worth revisiting again.
  3. Signs - M. Night wanted to drive home to the audience the whole "glass shattering" and "water weakness motif" incase the audience didn't "get it" the first time around with "Unbreakable." Water-phobic aliens invading Earth? For what purpose? I just don't buy it.
  4. The Village - I figured out the "twist ending" within the first 30-seconds of the film, because it looked so obvious that they were some sort of "Amish people" isolated from the rest of modern day society. One of the grave markers with the fake year of "18--" also helped me in this clue too, because people who dressed "Puritanically" like them were actually more prominent during the 1600's. And M. Night, no one wanted to see a lingering view of your reflection of your pock marked image over green glass. A 1st person point of view voice cameo alone would have driven it home, man.
  5. Lady in the Water - I skipped it because of my disdain for "Signs" and "The Village."
  6. The Happening - I skipped it because of my disdain for "Signs" and "The Village."
  7. (Avatar) The Last Airbender: I plan to skip this one, because I am not a fan of the cartoon that the upcoming live-action fiilm is based on, as well as my aforementioned disdain for "Signs" and "The Village."
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Old November 4 2008, 04:29 AM   #95
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

It is really amusing how Night thought TREES would be scary.
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Old November 4 2008, 06:23 AM   #96
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It is really amusing how Night thought TREES would be scary.

But, surely you were just terrified while all of those people were fearfully cavorting through the meadows like some deranged version of the Sound of Music while they were fleeing from that scariest of all monsters....the wind.

Or, the scene where our intrepid hero was trying to talk a truce to a potted plant?

You know, I may just give up and buy this movie because it gets funnier the longer I think about it.
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Old November 4 2008, 11:32 AM   #97
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

I don't mind the vagueness of the threat, or the fact that its not explained, in fact I usually love films where it's left up to you as to what you make of it, but bad direction, wooden acting and really bad dialouge are what annoys me about The Happening.

That said it's one of the funniest films I've seen all year (unintentionally of course!)
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Old November 4 2008, 01:02 PM   #98
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Re: THE HAPPENING - Holy mother of Christ, it's unwatchable.

Rifftrax actually improves this movie and makes it watchable.
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Old November 5 2008, 02:34 AM   #99
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That said it's one of the funniest films I've seen all year (unintentionally of course!)
Is The Happening more unintentionally funnier than Vanilla Ice's Cool as Ice (1991)?
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