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Old October 31 2008, 01:27 PM   #31
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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Uniforms from Enterprise almost 100 years after that show took place? Dunno about that. A T'Pol cameo? Why???
for fun, that is what movies are meant to be.
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Old October 31 2008, 01:54 PM   #32
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If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.
I was gonna ask you about that. It really pisses you off, doesn't it?
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Old October 31 2008, 02:03 PM   #33
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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The Kelvin with its .... registry starting with zero are proof of that.
I think that 0514, rather than 514, is more immediately recognizable as a lower number than 1701. There no doubt is a reason that the registry starts with zero, and it is clear you don't like that, but that doesn't mean Abrams and company don't know what they're doing or haven't thought things through.
Actualy it's a sign they have.
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Old October 31 2008, 02:13 PM   #34
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.
Indeed. Nothing says "future" like sweaters.
Velour sweaters.
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Old October 31 2008, 03:19 PM   #35
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.
Indeed. Nothing says "future" like sweaters.
Velour sweaters.
You guys say this like we were given an absolute choice between "velour" and "funky, expensive fabric with useless little chevrons on it."

There are a lot of other choices available which have little, if anything, to do with EITHER of those. And would still have given us uniforms which were, in every significant way, the original TOS uniforms.

Actually, my only quibbles with the "new" uniforms fall into the stupid fabric thing, and the replacement of the gold details with silver ones. I like the old gold-braid and the gold chest insignia. I can't see any rationale for making them silver instead of gold... except to "change things just because we can." (Oh, and the "sleeveless uniforms" for THE WOMEN seem to be there just to make them look more like "sexy little nightclub outfits." I hope we see at least a few skirt-uniforms with long sleeves... )

The idea of "black undershirts and colored overshirts" isn't something new... that's canon, from the original series (though it was lost in a number of the "Kirk shirt-ripping" bits). So that part is really great to see, IMHO.
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Old October 31 2008, 04:33 PM   #36
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

^^^

I think it is quite likely that the gold details didn't look good or stand out enough on-screen with the new yellow/gold/avocado command uniforms.

Besides, the Starfleet/Enterprise chevron was small and silver during The Cage, so a color change isn't a big deal.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage018.jpg
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Old October 31 2008, 04:42 PM   #37
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Im expecting jumpsuits, SeaQuest style with flashes of colour denoting which department your from
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Old October 31 2008, 05:52 PM   #38
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I hope they'll be similar to those from The Cage. Actually, I would've liked to see design in general (of the Enterprise bridge and the uniforms we've seen) be more like those from The Cage, but I guess they were shooting for familiarity with the main run of TOS.

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...Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.
There's nothing inherently wrong with either one... and we don't even know for a fact yet that the Kelvin has one nacelle.

Where the hell could a possible second nacelled be hiding?
It's in JJ Abrams' house. He broke it off the model to piss you off. That's also why he added a zero to the registry number, changed the bridge and uniforms.
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If Abrams and his cohorts knew what they were doing, than yes, they would be Cage inspired. But Abrams and his cohorts don't know what they are doing. The Kelvin with its one nacelle and registry starting with zero are proof of that.

Yes, I am going to keep driving this issue into the ground.
Indeed. Nothing says "future" like sweaters.
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Old October 31 2008, 06:45 PM   #39
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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The only reason Roddenberry started the whole even number nacelle thing was because he didn't approve of Franz Joseph's Starfleet Technical Manual. So what.
Indeed. Plus we've seen all kinds of alien ships with no nacelles at all.
We've even seen Nacelle Nichols at the Communications station
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Old October 31 2008, 07:44 PM   #40
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^^^

I think it is quite likely that the gold details didn't look good or stand out enough on-screen with the new yellow/gold/avocado command uniforms.

Besides, the Starfleet/Enterprise chevron was small and silver during The Cage, so a color change isn't a big deal.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage018.jpg
Must be another one of those "noncalibrated eyeballs" things... because that arrowhead, in that image, sure looks gold to me.
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Old October 31 2008, 07:54 PM   #41
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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^^^

I think it is quite likely that the gold details didn't look good or stand out enough on-screen with the new yellow/gold/avocado command uniforms.

Besides, the Starfleet/Enterprise chevron was small and silver during The Cage, so a color change isn't a big deal.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage018.jpg
Must be another one of those "noncalibrated eyeballs" things... because that arrowhead, in that image, sure looks gold to me.
The outer edge is gold (where a black edge is during the series), and the interior is silvery/whitish. I'll see if I can find another pic...

EDIT:

Here it is in high-def:

http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...part1hd353.jpg
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...part1hd356.jpg
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...part2hd092.jpg
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...part2hd096.jpg


Gold outer edge but silvery/white interior.
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Old October 31 2008, 08:02 PM   #42
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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^^^

I think it is quite likely that the gold details didn't look good or stand out enough on-screen with the new yellow/gold/avocado command uniforms.

Besides, the Starfleet/Enterprise chevron was small and silver during The Cage, so a color change isn't a big deal.

http://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...thecage018.jpg
Must be another one of those "noncalibrated eyeballs" things... because that arrowhead, in that image, sure looks gold to me.
The outer edge is gold (where a black edge is during the series), and the interior is silvery/whitish. I'll see if I can find another pic...
That's what I see too.Gold outer edge,silver interior
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Old October 31 2008, 08:10 PM   #43
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Re: The Kelvin's uniforms

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From the sound of it, the Kelvin crew doesn't get much screentime. Not alive, anyway. Sounds like they get attacked by Romulans in the first scene or two. I kinda doubt there'd be a drastically different uniform that would only be used for a few scenes.
Which brings to mind this scene:

MCCOY: He's dead Jim.
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Old October 31 2008, 08:47 PM   #44
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It looks like on all the gold shirts, it is gold and on the blue shirt it is silver, so it could be just reflecting (and silver).

ETA: Of course if we only go by this, all humans have blue eyes.
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Old October 31 2008, 08:52 PM   #45
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It looks like on all the gold shirts, it is gold and on the blue shirt it is silver, so it could be just reflecting (and silver).
I think that the gold shirts do make the insignia look more goldish due to reflection, yes.
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