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Old October 28 2008, 02:00 AM   #1
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Angel: After the Fall -- 13

Just got it today.

Like I said before, it's extremely obvious where Joss is putting all his effort into when you read BTVS S8, Serenity, and Angel at for a few months.

Angels is almost everything it could have been, while Buffy is so bad I think thinking about stop buying it and selling my S8 collection. And the art work is dreadful.


After reading #13, I am left with one thought: WHOA -- exactly what the fuck just happened with Spike?
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Old October 28 2008, 03:01 AM   #2
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

I have to admit, I about dropped the book when Spike...
...or maybe not. This series has me guessing again, and that's fantastic!
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Old October 28 2008, 07:28 AM   #3
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

These spoilers make me so happy I could cry.
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Old October 28 2008, 03:00 PM   #4
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

Did you actually read to the end of the issue?



Not really seeing the problem with the artwork in Buffy s8 myself. I like it, but its nowhere near as good as Angel:ATF
Takes too long for anything to frakking happen. In Angel's 13 issues about 10 times as much stuff has happened than in Buffy's 18


Btw, the final part of Spike: After The Fall (#4) is out on Wednesday 29 Oct
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Old October 28 2008, 05:52 PM   #5
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

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Did you actually read to the end of the issue?



Not really seeing the problem with the artwork in Buffy s8 myself. I like it, but its nowhere near as good as Angel:ATF
Takes too long for anything to frakking happen. In Angel's 13 issues about 10 times as much stuff has happened than in Buffy's 18


Btw, the final part of Spike: After The Fall (#4) is out on Wednesday 29 Oct
Oh, I read the whole issues, it's just:



But an even BETTER question is:

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Old October 28 2008, 08:20 PM   #6
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

I just don't want Illyria to be killed. I like her character too muc to see her written out. Fred, I feel had a good send off in Hole in the World. Not to mention we saw in the series and the Illyria one shot that Fred was "infecting" Illyria and making her more human.
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Old October 28 2008, 11:21 PM   #7
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

Damn I have to purchase the first two hardcover volumes soon. Shouldn't have clicked on those spoilers...
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Old October 28 2008, 11:43 PM   #8
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

I stopped collecting after issue five.... I really need to start catching up!
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Old October 29 2008, 12:29 AM   #9
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Damn I have to purchase the first two hardcover volumes soon. Shouldn't have clicked on those spoilers...
I'm still waiting for the trade paperbacks. Every time I pass by the hardcovers, I'm tempted to open them up and read there and then in the bookstore... my resilience is slowly wearing away.

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Old October 29 2008, 12:48 AM   #10
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^ What's wrong with getting the hardcovers? They really are a work of art. Really beautifully presented, great extras- scripts, all the covers, sketches, original ideas, etc. There's even a bookmark

One thing I love about Angel: ATF is the awesome covers of late. Notably the Alex Garner ones. Excellent
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Old October 29 2008, 04:30 AM   #11
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^ What's wrong with getting the hardcovers?
I hate hardcovers. I find them a pain in the ass to read and transport. Also, I have to live frugally, and comics are already a luxury; I can't justify spending more for a product on the basis of format when the content is the same (by which I mean the story - won't much care if the extras don't make it into the trade paperbacks), particularly since I don't care for that format specifically.

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Old October 29 2008, 07:59 PM   #12
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To be honest, I'm not really as into the current Angel (and Spike) comics as the Buffy ones. Sure, a lot of 'cool' stuff's happening, but it just doesn't have the same magic about it. It's like a Michael Bay movie in comparison to Buffy's LotR.

And the artwork doesn't help. When Angel was talking about the room spinning and Gunn was asking what was going on, it took me a while to realise that the slightly more shitty painting style in that frame than the rest of the shitty looking comic meant something was 'going on'.
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Old October 30 2008, 02:31 AM   #13
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

I agree, to a point. I don't think the art is necessarily bad, but it seems to often fail in communicating what's going on properly. Sometimes I need to reread to get the jist of things.

However, as great as the storyline to Buffy S8 is, Angel's metaphorical Season 6 is just so much better. Though with that being said, After the Fall was concieved as more of a mini series, while Buffy Season 8 is, well, season 8...and by my count, around the 6-9 episode mark. Usually where things start to heat up and get to the main plot...
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Old October 30 2008, 03:00 AM   #14
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Re: Angel: After the Fall -- 13

Joss should have just kept the same artist from "The Astonishing X-Men"; now he did some very find work that would have really helped BTVS S8.

I've made up my mind, after the next issue, I'm dropping BTVS S8. Probably sell my collection.
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