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Old October 14 2008, 05:32 AM   #31
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Re: If not MAN TRAP..then what

Lots of shows never aired their pilots, especially when there were substantial changes made between the pilot and regular production. "All in the Family" is a prime example (different actors played Mike and Gloria).
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Old October 15 2008, 08:29 PM   #32
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Re: If not MAN TRAP..then what

"The Man Trap" offered action and suspense as well as a creepy alien creature. Things that mattered just as much in 1966 to the networks looking for maximum appeal and ratings as now.
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Old October 16 2008, 07:22 AM   #33
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Well, obviously going with The Man Trap as the series opener was a huge mistake. Look how it put Star Trek in a hole that it has never come out of.
Boy, you're not kidding! Horrible choice! I mean, it hooked me! ...while it hasn't ruined my life, it became an addiction I never could quite kick.

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The Man Trap, no doubt, was the best choice. The only other option for me would have been The Corbomite Maneuver, but obviously the extensive special effects of that episode weren't ready yet.
For me personally, The Corbomite Maneuver is the epitome of Star Trek (on many levels). I would have gone with that (if it had been possible) in spite of the fact that one of the best lines of the episode was really set up by WNMHGB.
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Old October 17 2008, 04:39 AM   #34
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"The Corbomite Maneuver" was wrapped and in post but not in the can at the time the series premiered.
Cool..then by your account what episodes were 'in the can' other than MAN TRAP..or was that it? Because Shatner, Nimoy and Roddenberry have all stated it was a bad 'choice' to go with it...
I don't have to go by my account, I'll go by the documentation. According to Inside Star Trek, in order to sell the strange new worlds concept, the only real choices for the premier episode were thought to be "The Man Trap" and "The Naked Time". WNMHGB was considered too expository. "Mudd's Women" was out of the running because "the opening-night critics would have had a field day with...'space hookers...'" "Charlie X" was too gentle, and "The Enemy Within" lacked the scope of the series premise. Justman wrote, "I later realized NBC was right."
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Old October 17 2008, 06:19 PM   #35
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MAN TRAP was the first aired episode, and yet from what I have read, six were in the can. Many point at that premier episode as being one of the reasons TOS had a bumpy start. You know what they say about first impressions...

Of the episodes that were in the can, which one would you have gone with first?

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I've always wondered about that choice myself. If only Star Trek had had a different opening episode, the show might have made it out of its first half-season instead of being a flash in the pan barely remembered by a few fans...
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Old October 22 2008, 04:47 AM   #36
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If I could choose any first season episode, I'd go with Charlie X or The Enemy Within, both of which feature enough technology and "strange worlds" sensibilities to sell the show as intelligent sci fi. They are also strongly Kirk-centered, and regardless of the revisionism later, it's obvious in the early episodes that he's the focus of the show. Balance of Terror would be a good action-oriented episode to jumpstart the series, but it relies less on the sci-fi premise and more on the war movie formula to create its primary drama.

By the time WNMHGB airs, I would have hoped that they could have filmed a brief framing sequence to show that the episode predates the five-year mission -- perhaps with a segment showing Kirk in the present day addressing a group of cadets on the perils that might await them or receiving yet another commendation and delivering it to the family of Gary Mitchell.
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Old October 23 2008, 04:15 PM   #37
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MAN TRAP was the first aired episode, and yet from what I have read, six were in the can. Many point at that premier episode as being one of the reasons TOS had a bumpy start. You know what they say about first impressions...

Of the episodes that were in the can, which one would you have gone with first?

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I've always wondered about that choice myself. If only Star Trek had had a different opening episode, the show might have made it out of its first half-season instead of being a flash in the pan barely remembered by a few fans...
Which seems to be the general opinion of Roddenberry, Shatner and Nimoy. And since those three hardly agreed on anything in those days, its a sure bet they are right.

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Old October 24 2008, 07:10 PM   #38
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Well, obviously going with The Man Trap as the series opener was a huge mistake. Look how it put Star Trek in a hole that it has never come out of.
Sigh. You know I didn't mean it made people consider Star Trek a kiddie show FOREVER.

But what Man Trap did do was show the critics the highly touted new SF TV series was just another monster rally with a high body count and a grim cast. Instead of it being considered a winner right out of the gate, it was considered a reject from "the kidvid bloc." Check out the national reviews if you don't believe me. It's all about first impressions

WNMHGB was a better episode to kick off the series, as it aimed higher, had better procution values and had more layered and dimensional performances. As such, it might have been better appreciated in the press and got more people to check it out.
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