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Old October 16 2008, 06:30 PM   #61
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Re: Do you think I'd like Firefly?

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I'm not too familiar with the new BSG series, but I know a little of it's space battles, and FF outerspace sequences, like it's battles, are close in style (in fact, you can see the FF ship briefly in one BSG episode!), and they follow the rule of no sound in space.
BSG doesn't follow the 'no sounds in space' rule. Firefly does, much to its credit.
Sound is muffled, but not eliminated in BSG sequences. Sometimes I wish they just went all out and got rid of it, but I an understand the dramatic desire for sound in space. Worked to great effect in Firefly (and I was very disappointed to see it violated at the end of Serenity--I know it was explained, but said explanation didn't work for me).
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Old October 16 2008, 06:31 PM   #62
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Justtoyourleft wrote:
Shows I don't like (no particular order):

- Farscape
- ST VOY
- ST ENT
Not to pick on you or anything and you have your opinions and I'm fine with them it's just lumping Farscape in with Ent and Voy just seems wrong somehow.
I don't think he would enjoy Farscape, since its starts slow and improves in later seasons (exact opposite of some tv shows which start with a bang but fizzle out quick)the poster might not like the fact Farscape has got a bit of humor and he enjoys the depression, soap-opera shit that is "Ron Moore's" nu BSG
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Old October 16 2008, 07:01 PM   #63
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Old October 16 2008, 07:09 PM   #64
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Way to insult a person for having different tastes than you. Classy.
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Old October 16 2008, 08:44 PM   #65
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Where is the BSG ratings graph though?!!?!
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Old October 16 2008, 08:45 PM   #66
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Old October 17 2008, 10:06 AM   #67
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Where is the BSG ratings graph though?!!?!
Oh, I'm sure he's got it somewhere.
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Old October 17 2008, 11:47 PM   #68
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Just a friendly word of advice to you guys, replying in this thread is kind pointless since I can't read a lot of your posts but let's continue this nonsense for a sec

(just to clear this up a little more : these blocked posts I refer to are the posts from the bsg-fanatics aka David Eick bootlickers)

Half of you battlestar guys are on my block list from the days I took part in the nuBSG forum, I would write a critical reviews after the show went to shit in S3, sometimes I would say Trek/Firefly/Farscape etc were 10 times better than BSG and suddenly my inbox used to get spammed with trollish posts from a certain group of hardcore Ron Moore bootlickers. Mr Justtoyourleft avoided the block list because he actually had something interesting to say and he was a lot more civil than the usual BSG trolls. I do however feel that anyone who enjoys the the depression, soap-opera shit that is 'Ron Moores' nu BSG probably won't enjoy the colorful aliens, fx, writing and humor in a tv series like Farscape.

Firefly is probably somewhere in between the two, its got the quality, sharp writing and humor in a series like Farscape but its probably got enough emo drama and angst to keep the average BSG fan interested. Firefly is probably of better quality than Farscape but its only 14 episodes and completely jumps the shark during the Serenity movie
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Old October 19 2008, 10:19 PM   #69
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Ok, has anyone got the ratings for Farscape and Firefly handy? I feel the need to better assess their respective quality. I haven't done this properly in the past and ended up watching crap without actually realizing it. That can be nuisance, I can tell you...
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Old October 19 2008, 10:34 PM   #70
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I hated both Farscape and Firefly. If you dislike Farsape then I doubt Firefly will interest you.
Not necessarily. I never developed a fondness for Farscape (nor a dislike for that matter; it just never grabbed me, despite the best efforts of Samuel T. Cogley ), but Firefly was a favorite of mine from the very first episode, and only got better from there. Frankly, I don't see a lot of similarities between the shows, as far as characters, tone or writing go, so I see no reason for an opinion of one to affect that of the other in any way.

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Ok, has anyone got the ratings for Farscape and Firefly handy? I feel the need to better assess their respective quality. I haven't done this properly in the past and ended up watching crap without actually realizing it. That can be nuisance, I can tell you...
If you watched "crap" without realizing it, then perhaps it wasn't crap in the first place, and you'd only be told that by friends/peers/strangers. And it's pretty common knowledge that ratings are probably the least relevant meter for determining a show's quality, or else we wouldn't be inundated by 'crap' like The Bachelor and other mindless 'reality' programming.
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Old October 20 2008, 09:51 AM   #71
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If you watched "crap" without realizing it, then perhaps it wasn't crap in the first place, and you'd only be told that by friends/peers/strangers. And it's pretty common knowledge that ratings are probably the least relevant meter for determining a show's quality, or else we wouldn't be inundated by 'crap' like The Bachelor and other mindless 'reality' programming.
You haven't been in the BSG forum much, have you?
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Old October 20 2008, 09:55 AM   #72
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I do however feel that anyone who enjoys the the depression, soap-opera shit that is 'Ron Moores' nu BSG probably won't enjoy the colorful aliens, fx, writing and humor in a tv series like Farscape.
And you would be wrong. I consider both pinnacles in science fiction TV.

Firefly is probably somewhere in between the two, its got the quality, sharp writing and humor in a series like Farscape but its probably got enough emo drama and angst to keep the average BSG fan interested. Firefly is probably of better quality than Farscape but its only 14 episodes and completely jumps the shark during the Serenity movie
I quote Kaylee, "People have feelings...I'm talking about people..?"
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Old October 20 2008, 10:59 AM   #73
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I'm not too familiar with the new BSG series, but I know a little of it's space battles, and FF outerspace sequences, like it's battles, are close in style (in fact, you can see the FF ship briefly in one BSG episode!)...
That's because both shows are done by the same CG effects house.
No they aren't Zoic left Battlestar Galactica after the second season.
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Old October 20 2008, 12:57 PM   #74
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I do however feel that anyone who enjoys the the depression, soap-opera shit that is 'Ron Moores' nu BSG probably won't enjoy the colorful aliens, fx, writing and humor in a tv series like Farscape.
And you would be wrong. I consider both pinnacles in science fiction TV,
Hear hear. The shows do completely different things, but that's a good thing! Just because I like shows set in space doesn't mean that I want everything else about them to be the same. Farscape is fun and emotional and wildly varied in tone and content. Its an absolutely thrilling ride that I am SO glad that they got away with making. Its the complete opposite of Battlestar in every way apart from its kind of an action show set in space.

Firefly, at the end of the day, isn't really like either of them. It has a lot of humour, but its different, quieter, humour than Farscape. It has a certain amount of drama, but it doesn't get to explore it in the same way as BSG, partly because of the low episode count and partly because the situation and characters are very different. It has action, good action, but not in every episode, and Serenity isn't armed so space battle don't really happen until the film.

Its best just to try these things and see if they grab you. I know everyone has said that, but it really is true.
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I really, really, really wanted to like it - especially after experiencing Buffy and Angel for the first time, back-to-back on DVD.

But I didn't. I gave up after 3 episodes.
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