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View Poll Results: Grade "Star Trek: Destiny: Gods of Night"
Excellent 105 68.63%
Above Average 36 23.53%
Average 8 5.23%
Below Average 2 1.31%
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Old September 30 2008, 08:20 PM   #76
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Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Gods of Night - SPOILER Thread

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Put another way, if DS9 is your favorite, then I assume you wouldn't want the creative decisions for Destiny to be made at DS9's expense.
Stop making so much sense; this is the internet!
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Old September 30 2008, 08:49 PM   #77
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William Leisner wrote: View Post
Stop making so much sense; this is the internet!
Don't worry; it's election season, so there's lots of extra nonsense around to cancel it out.
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Old October 1 2008, 02:34 AM   #78
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Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Gods of Night - SPOILER Thread

I was really wishing that the DS9 books for those 4 years had been published first, maybe alongside the TNG books so that they could have been caught up. Seems like a fight that someone like Sisko should be a part of along side Dax, Picard and the others. This does not mean I am not loving Destiny.
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Old October 1 2008, 04:02 AM   #79
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My only complaint is that the Sovereign-class has 24 decks, NOT 29 as erroneously stated in "Nemesis". Otherwise, sweet book; can't wait for more!!

Oh, and B'Elanna leaving Tom? Not cool. Hopefully will be explained more fully why she left and they'd better work it out, dang it!!
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Old October 1 2008, 04:42 AM   #80
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My only complaint is that the Sovereign-class has 24 decks, NOT 29 as erroneously stated in "Nemesis".
Unfortunately, once they established it in Nemesis, I and the other writers were obliged to adhere to that detail going forward. It simply required a retcon that explains that a lower-decks refit in the years between Insurrection and Nemesis subdivided several large decks, changing the total number of decks without altering the exterior hull configuration.

Oh, and B'Elanna leaving Tom? Not cool. Hopefully will be explained more fully why she left and they'd better work it out, dang it!!
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Old October 1 2008, 05:12 AM   #81
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^ Something tells me it has to do with her Klingon spiritual quest.
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Old October 1 2008, 11:03 AM   #82
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I knew that quest would be trouble.

Just want to add my own commendations to the bunch David. I'm reluctant to get too detailed as it's just the first part, but it sure is up there with your other fine works. I particularly enjoyed the Enterprise and Aventine sections (Leishman seems like a nightmare to live with ahahahaha).

And of course I cheered at the small inclusion of Ms Bacco - looking forward to her role in the next two volumes more than anything else now).
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Old October 1 2008, 11:41 AM   #83
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A very enjoyable read. Obviously, with it being the first part of a trilogy, there's a lot of setup, but that doesn't really hurt the book - there is a clear emerging plotline, and the way the four crews are connecting and interweaving their stories is compelling.

And we've had our first major character death.

Of course, the only problem is we now have to wait another month for part two!
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Old October 1 2008, 01:46 PM   #84
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Great book. I'm dying under the weight of reading and papers for graduate school, but this book I made time for. It'll mean a few very long nights towards the end of the week, but it was well worth it!

Obviously, as the first in the trilogy we've only just begun our journey down destiny's path, but what an opening! Wonderful references to other series - the inclusion of characters from DS9, Voyager, Articles of the Federation, a couple of mentions of New Frontier etc. and a very intriguing story behind the disappearance of the Columbia. Reading about the death of the Columbia cw was quite horrific.

What I loved most about this book was how David Mack completely left his pre-release detractors in the dirt. With mud on their faces. This was not in the slightest bit a Borg story and certainly not 'more of the same'. The Borg, I feel, were in many ways incidental to the character dynamics that were explored; Picard's (perhaps) descent into madness? Riker and Troi's marital difficulties, and the plethora of character moments throughout the book.

When the Borg killed Admiral Paris, for example, we didn't get a description of what was going on outside the Starbase because that didn't matter, but the touching struggle of an old man carrying a lot of pain trying to do his best to make things right with his son before he died.

And that's what the Borg should be about, which is something both Christopher Bennett and David Mack understand and is the primary reason why their Borg works leave the other two recent additions to the Borg pantheon (Resistance and Before Dishonor) in the dirt. It's never about The Borg. It's always about the characters.

I'm psyched to learn how the Caeliar and Captain Hernandez integrate into the Borg invasion storyline. I'm looking forward with excitement and fear as to what the Borg will do next, and how they may potentially alter 24th century Trek.

Next month can't come fast enough.
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Old October 1 2008, 02:11 PM   #85
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The Troi subplot had me riled up a bit. Especially, in Mere Mortals. I definitely see Troi's point of view, and am rooting for her despite the odds. Hey, it's Star Trek after all.
To quote Kirk: "I take it the odds are against us, and the situation is grim?"

Despite how it all turns out, it shows how good the writing is - introducing topics that make you think and get emotionally involved. Even if it's anger and frustration at the characters.
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Old October 1 2008, 03:59 PM   #86
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Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Gods of Night - SPOILER Thread

Great book... my compliments. Can't wait for 'Mere Mortals'.

I do see the point a poster made about Ezri being in command... does seem odd for her to get a state-of-the-art starship as her first command.

The only thing I didn't like is Melora... she's nothing more than a 24th century shut in. Didn't like the character in DS9, didn't like her in the Titan books and I don't like her here.

I definitely hope we're done with the Borg for a good long while after this series. So much of the TNG relaunch has been focused on them. Enough.
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Old October 1 2008, 06:42 PM   #87
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Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Gods of Night - SPOILER Thread

^ I like Melora generally but I'm not a fan of this crazy holo-imaging device Ra-Havreii has made for her either.

Forgot to mention this earlier - I'm never been an Enterprise fan, so I know fairly little about it outside the main crew. Are the MACOs established in the series, or were they established in Last Full Measure? Additionally, what's their actual purpose/status etc?

ETA: also - Klingons vs Borg? Oh YES.
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Old October 1 2008, 07:03 PM   #88
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The MACOs were established in the third season of Enterprise. They're soldiers stationed aboard a ship to perform all the fun tasks soldiers do.
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Old October 1 2008, 08:15 PM   #89
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And would that be to go strange new worlds, try new foods, meet new aliens and kill them?
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Old October 1 2008, 08:22 PM   #90
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The MACOS were brought aboard so that the Starfleet people would have men to dance with.





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