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Old September 26 2008, 09:03 PM   #16
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Re: Comics Continuity #2 - Spider-Man

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They could have handled the entire situation a lot cleaner and a lot better than they did. They had a lot more opportunities to do so as well.
Hey, anyone remember when they wanted Peter single and they blew up MJ in an airplane?

Remember how she CAME BACK?

Remember how that was utterly pointless?

Me, too.
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Old September 26 2008, 09:06 PM   #17
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Re: Comics Continuity #2 - Spider-Man

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TheBolianChef wrote: View Post
They could have handled the entire situation a lot cleaner and a lot better than they did. They had a lot more opportunities to do so as well.
Hey, anyone remember when they wanted Peter single and they blew up MJ in an airplane?

Remember how she CAME BACK?

Remember how that was utterly pointless?

Me, too.
Remember when Gwen had twins...
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Old September 26 2008, 09:20 PM   #18
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It's worse for a character like Batman who is in far more books. A day in the DCU must be like 240 hours long.
no, that's the reason why characters shouldn't be whored out into 19 different comics like frigging Wolverine.

thank christ Marvel've at least got the sense to keep UMU small. sometimes it's hard enough figuring out where those 4 regular titles fit together...
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Old September 26 2008, 10:28 PM   #19
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thank christ Marvel've at least got the sense to keep UMU small. sometimes it's hard enough figuring out where those 4 regular titles fit together...
I tend not to.
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Old September 27 2008, 04:33 AM   #20
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Re: Comics Continuity #2 - Spider-Man

Didn't Tony Stark know Peter was Spider-man before he unmasked himself though? I thought BND just dealt with that unmasking being rewritten, I'd assume the stuff Peter did well prior to that wasn't rewritten, but I'm not too familiar with all the retcon mojo used.
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Old September 27 2008, 10:03 AM   #21
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Didn't Tony Stark know Peter was Spider-man before he unmasked himself though? I thought BND just dealt with that unmasking being rewritten, I'd assume the stuff Peter did well prior to that wasn't rewritten, but I'm not too familiar with all the retcon mojo used.
He did know. All of the New Avengers knew. He lost his mask during the breakout at the Raft that brought the New Avengers together.

Around the same time in Amazing Spider-Man Aunt May's house burned down, so he moved in to Stark Tower with MJ and Aunt May. Jarvis and Aunt May even had a relationship (given what we now know about Jarvis, we should all be glad that it has been erased).

Skip forward a while, and after an assassin hired by the Kingpin accidentally got Aunt May instead of MJ, Peter - now a fugitive after switching sides - became desperate. Every avenue failed, even when Stark put $2m in Jarvis' name to pay for her medical bills. Then Mephisto approached him and MJ. Mephisto made them a deal - restoring Aunt May to life in return for their marriage. He erased it, leaving them with only a tiny part of their "souls" that remembered that they were supposed to be together.

Now, one of the side effects of that is that now, nobody remembers who he is - even the people who already knew before he unmasked, including friends like Daredevil and his fellow Avengers. People do remember him unmasking on television but nobody can remember who it was under the mask.
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Old September 27 2008, 11:42 AM   #22
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which is fucking stupid.
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Old September 27 2008, 02:39 PM   #23
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Re: Comics Continuity #2 - Spider-Man

My least favorite bit about the Mephisto reset is it seems so against the defining trait of Spider-Man, "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility" In his origin, Spidey made a bad choice and it lead to his Uncle Ben's death. So flash forward and Peter Parker makes a bad mistake by unmasking and that leads to Aunt May being shot. But instead of dealing with it, he gives up on his goddamn marriage and makes a deal with THE DEVIL?! THE FUCKING DEVIL?!

That's the character I've been reading about for the last 20 years of my life? Things get tough so he pushes a reset button? Wouldn't Aunt May WANT him to choose his wife over her? Would Wolverine do that, would Daredevil or Batman? I liked to THINK those characters would just deal with it, and find a way to move on. Aunt May's lead a very long life, y'know, giving up your marriage so she can make a few more batches of wheatcakes is stupid... I haven't picked up a 616 Spider-Man comic since, I don't know this character, I don't care to. Ultimate Spider-Man is the only Spider-Man for me.
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Old September 27 2008, 03:19 PM   #24
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Oh man.. don't go there.

Brand New Day was the single most awful continuity reboot i have ever witnessed.

It is a complete mess, spits in the face of everybody and is being called brilliant by Marvel (and especially Quesada whom i've defended many times but not on this one).

Have also read Brand New Day #1 but since then not a single Spidey book except the Ultimate version.
I loved BND. It was great. It was much better than Cats. I will buy it and its TPB again and again.

NOW FOR GOD'S SAKE, RELEASE MY WIFE!!!!!
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Old September 28 2008, 07:50 AM   #25
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Re: Comics Continuity #2 - Spider-Man

Please, don't forget that MJ is a super-heroine, now.
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Old September 28 2008, 08:31 AM   #26
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Please, don't forget that MJ is a super-heroine, now.
If you're referring to Jackpot, no she isn't. Sara Ehret is a fan of MJ's.
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Old September 28 2008, 10:56 AM   #27
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I may have missed the issue in which it has been made clear she wasn't jackpot...
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Old September 28 2008, 12:09 PM   #28
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I may have missed the issue in which it has been made clear she wasn't jackpot...
Perhaps it hasn't been made 100% clear but having seen Ehret and MJ standing next to each other with Ehret claiming to be a huge fan of MJ's, suggests to me that she is Jackpot.

I suspect there's some sort of weird multiple personality disorder going on here. Jackpot tells Spider-Man that her name is "Sarah Ehret" but when Spidey tracks her down, Ehret denies it and tells him that he should "really keep out of this".

The Jackpot is MJ idea is far too obvious.
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Old September 28 2008, 03:27 PM   #29
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I still wouldnt put it past Joe Q, tho
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