What the continuity nazis have wrought - Page 3

CaptainCanada · September 27 2008, 01:43 AM

TheBolianChef wrote:

CaptainCanada wrote:

No; Johns is writing a new story about his origin, but it's the basic elements, just told in a modern style.

Ah okay...Are they changing Sur's story?

Kinda. Johns is expanding/changing some of the stuff in Moore's "Tygers" short in the 80s.

Ben Sisko3 · September 27 2008, 02:12 AM

CaptainCanada wrote:

TheBolianChef wrote:

CaptainCanada wrote:

No; Johns is writing a new story about his origin, but it's the basic elements, just told in a modern style.

Ah okay...Are they changing Sur's story?

Kinda. Johns is expanding/changing some of the stuff in Moore's "Tygers" short in the 80s.

I officially hate him now.

Why change Alan Moore? WHY?

CaptainCanada · September 27 2008, 02:57 AM

Because he's using the "blackest night" concept as the basis for a story; it doesn't work in its original form, so this is more a case of taking the core premise (and some of the characters) and using them. It's pretty good so far (though the origin revisit was too long, in my opinion).

ElScoob · September 27 2008, 07:32 AM

But they haven't really changed the essence of it, though, have they? Abin Sur crashes and is dying, tells Ring, "Get me a guy who's honest and without fear", Ring produces Hal Jordan, etc. etc. etc. They're changing the specifics a little, but no more so than Giffen/Priest/et. al. did 20 years ago with Emerald Dawn...

Honestly, I don't mind a little reworking of the fine details as long as the broad strokes are there. Kal-El is rocketed to Earth from a doomed planet, Bruce Wayne sees his parents gunned down before his eyes, Hal Jordan gets zapped into the desert to get a magic ring from a dying space-patrolman, Barry Allen gets hit by lightning and chemicals in a police lab.... I mean, each one of those stories has been retold a dozen times with little small changes, but the Main Thing is always there. I guess that's what's important to me.

Good job the internet wasn't around when Malory or White started playing about with the Arthur legend, wha'?

A beaker full of death · September 28 2008, 03:47 AM

ElScoob wrote:

Good job the internet wasn't around when Malory or White started playing about with the Arthur legend, wha'?

Gojirob · September 28 2008, 04:23 AM

A beaker full of death wrote:

ElScoob wrote:

Good job the internet wasn't around when Malory or White started playing about with the Arthur legend, wha'?

God's Teeth, that heathen Mallory has seen fit to combine the Sword In The Stone with Mighty Excalibur itself! Tis not done in this way. Not ever. They be two separate weapons, that mark off parts and parcels of Arthur's growth as a liege-lord. Mallory is no more in the Book Of Life, may he burn for five days before Judgement and then ever after.

And to Burgundian Templar : No, fool, Geoffrey Of Monmouth did not do the exact same thing. I suppose such as ye would be happy with combining Excalibur with Jason's Fleece and Thor's Hammer! Some of us like the legends told as they were meant.

Dragorob, Jersey Isles

Thespeckledkiwi · September 28 2008, 06:10 AM

^

Great work Gojirob!

Gojirob · September 28 2008, 06:18 AM

TheBolianChef wrote:

^

Great work Gojirob!

Thanks! I once rewrote two Highlander eps in that faux-epic speech, so this twas easy.

Thespeckledkiwi · September 28 2008, 06:20 AM

That's good...

But yeah...at least Homer didn't have the Internet either...

"This story makes no sense!"

blaXXer · September 28 2008, 07:39 AM

Hermiod wrote:

Nerys Myk wrote:

This happened decades ago. The 50s Cap appeared in 1970s and the second Skull in the 80s. Sudden would be a bit of an exaggeration. The 50s Cap gave us a good story. Commie Red Skull, not so much.

Yet, despite all that, today we have Brubaker and Epting's Captain America which is the best thing you'll find in a comic book store.

This. This. A thousand times THIS.

A beaker full of death · September 28 2008, 06:57 PM

Gojirob wrote:

Thanks! I once rewrote two Highlander eps in that faux-epic speech, so this twas easy.

Then I have to be an ass and point out that the "this" doesn't belong there. "Twas" is short for "it was."

Gojirob · September 28 2008, 07:48 PM

A beaker full of death wrote:

Gojirob wrote:

Thanks! I once rewrote two Highlander eps in that faux-epic speech, so this twas easy.

Then I have to be an ass and point out that the "this" doesn't belong there. "Twas" is short for "it was."

I said 'faux'.

September 27 2008, 02:57 AM	#33
CaptainCanada Admiral Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Re: What the continuity nazis have wrought Because he's using the "blackest night" concept as the basis for a story; it doesn't work in its original form, so this is more a case of taking the core premise (and some of the characters) and using them. It's pretty good so far (though the origin revisit was too long, in my opinion). __________________ "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!" - Homer Simpson

September 27 2008, 07:32 AM	#34
ElScoob Fleet Captain Location: 30th Century Metropolis	Re: What the continuity nazis have wrought But they haven't really changed the essence of it, though, have they? Abin Sur crashes and is dying, tells Ring, "Get me a guy who's honest and without fear", Ring produces Hal Jordan, etc. etc. etc. They're changing the specifics a little, but no more so than Giffen/Priest/et. al. did 20 years ago with Emerald Dawn... Honestly, I don't mind a little reworking of the fine details as long as the broad strokes are there. Kal-El is rocketed to Earth from a doomed planet, Bruce Wayne sees his parents gunned down before his eyes, Hal Jordan gets zapped into the desert to get a magic ring from a dying space-patrolman, Barry Allen gets hit by lightning and chemicals in a police lab.... I mean, each one of those stories has been retold a dozen times with little small changes, but the Main Thing is always there. I guess that's what's important to me. Good job the internet wasn't around when Malory or White started playing about with the Arthur legend, wha'? __________________ Long Live The Legion!

September 28 2008, 06:10 AM	#37
Thespeckledkiwi Vice Admiral Location: TheBolianChef is no more! It's theSpeckledKiwi now!	Re: What the continuity nazis have wrought ^ Great work Gojirob!

September 28 2008, 06:20 AM	#39
Thespeckledkiwi Vice Admiral Location: TheBolianChef is no more! It's theSpeckledKiwi now!	Re: What the continuity nazis have wrought That's good... But yeah...at least Homer didn't have the Internet either... "This story makes no sense!"

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