Avengers movie: Desperate Wasp? - Page 3

Guy Gardener · September 16 2008, 10:30 PM

Chaos Descending wrote:

CaptainCanada wrote:

Chaos Descending wrote:

You know, they're making a Captain America movie too.

And a Thor movie.

Maybe she's Sharon Carter or Sif?

Sharon's race isn't particularly important (though given they seem to be doing all-WWII with Cap's film, Sharon wouldn't be in it; that's one of my problems with the all-WWII approach, since most of Cap's interesting supporting characters aren't there), but Sif's a Nordic goddess, so I doubt Longoria would be doing that.

These are good points, I was just trying to point out that just because ONE of the comics was an Avengers mag doesn't mean she's playing an Avenger.

Cap was "dating" Sharon's Older sister(retcon = Aunty) "Peggy" in World War II. When they met up again after his big chill, Peggy didn't think the age gap was insurmountable, she wanted to continue but Steve traded her in for her little sister/niece. Peggy became techsupport/receptionist at Avengers Compound for a while. How Woody Allen of him.

Joey in Friends, in that space play said he was going to look up his girlfriends great great grand daughter when he got back.

Creepy.

Ms Marvel kicks ass, but she should really adopt the name captain Marvel like she did in the House of M if she wants to be taken serious.

Thrall · September 16 2008, 10:41 PM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Thrall wrote:

Norrin Radd wrote:

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option...5468&Itemid=99

I could see it maybe. As long as they don't make Pym a wife-beater douchebag I'll be happy.

No, no. You take that away form Pym and he's completely unremarkable.

Screw redemption by the way, just keep the persecution flowing for the next 200 years and then we'll think up some more ways to screw over the character.

He's just too blonde. You know what i'm talking about.

Other female avengers than the wasp and Scarlet Witch?

The Blackwidow (Not ver Russiany, but the character is easy to use and excellent to look at.)

Jocasta (Who has the Wasps voice)

Moondragon (Shave her hair off!)

Ms Marvel. (Ridiculously not blonde enough.)

She Hulk (Too Short)

Captain Marvel ( Not Black.)

Spider-Woman (OOOOOO! Now we're talking!)

Mocking Bird (No chance unless Hawkeye is there.)

Sersi (No chance)

Crystal (no Chance)

Ripclaw (No chance.)

SilverClaw (No chance.)

they would have given her new comics. So, failin gthe wasp, it's either black widow or Spider-Woman whose rights would be in the toilet because of that cartoon in the 80s, but then the Scarlet Witch wa in the marvel action hour inthe 90s...

Unless.

Jessica Jones?

Your mind just goes a mile a minute don't it?

Black Widow would be good, as she's a Original Marvel. But Wasp and Scarlet Witch are the main stays, the original leading ladies. Anyone else is a wannabe.

The lineup should be the classic lineup:

Cap(Mark Valley, Brad Pitt or Matt Damon)
The Hulk(Ed Norton)
Iron Man(RDJ)
Thor(that big dude from The 13th Warrior or Triple H)
GIANT-MAN not Ant-Man yet
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Quicksliver
The Wasp
Bring in Vision later

No Spider-Woman or Ms. Marvel. I want nothing to do with Bendis. And no Wanda/Pietro incest. I want nothing to do with Millar.

CaptainCanada · September 16 2008, 11:39 PM

Thrall wrote:

[Cap(Mark Valley, Brad Pitt or Matt Damon)
The Hulk(Ed Norton)
Iron Man(RDJ)
Thor(that big dude from The 13th Warrior or Triple H)
GIANT-MAN not Ant-Man yet
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Quicksliver
The Wasp
Bring in Vision later

Too many characters; just balancing four or five will be hard enough.

No Spider-Woman or Ms. Marvel. I want nothing to do with Bendis.

Ms. Marvel's association with the team dates considerably before Bendis.

Guy Gardener · September 16 2008, 11:41 PM

They were raised by a cow. Bova. Cows don't have a problem with incest. It's no wonder they were brought up to consider each other a romantic possibility. Although it doesn't seem as though they acted on this in 616 continuity unlike Ultimate.

Night Crawler (*&^ed his sister and no one has a problem with that.

60 miles an hour isn't that fast.

CaptainCanada · September 16 2008, 11:49 PM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Night Crawler (*&^ed his sister and no one has a problem with that.

What?

Thrall · September 16 2008, 11:52 PM

Guy Gardener wrote:

They were raised by a cow. Bova. Cows don't have a problem with incest. It's no wonder they were brought up to consider each other a romantic possibility. Although it doesn't seem as though they acted on this in 616 continuity unlike Ultimate.

Actually they were raised by Gypsy's. They were only breast-fed by a cow.

Night Crawler (*&^ed his sister and no one has a problem with that.

Seriously? What. The. Fuck.

CaptainCanada · September 16 2008, 11:56 PM

Thrall wrote:

Night Crawler (*&^ed his sister and no one has a problem with that.

Seriously? What. The. Fuck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Sefton

Foster-sister, apparently.

Huh, I wasn't aware of that backstory (dates to Claremont's original run, apparently).

Thrall · September 16 2008, 11:59 PM

CaptainCanada wrote:

Thrall wrote:

Night Crawler (*&^ed his sister and no one has a problem with that.

Seriously? What. The. Fuck.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Sefton

Foster-sister, apparently.

Huh, I wasn't aware of that backstory (dates to Claremont's original run, apparently).

Yeah. That's just strange.

Thrall · September 17 2008, 12:01 AM

Too many characters; just balancing four or five will be hard enough.

I don't know. That Ultimate Avengers cartoon did a decent enough job balancing them out.

Ms. Marvel's association with the team dates considerably before Bendis.

Yeah but they weren't as high profile.

CaptainCanada · September 17 2008, 12:15 AM

Thrall wrote:

Too many characters; just balancing four or five will be hard enough.

I don't know. That Ultimate Avengers cartoon did a decent enough job balancing them out.

Assuming this all goes to plan, the film will have the stars of four or five (hopefully) success motion pictures teaming up, and that's before you get to supporting characters, villains, etc. Balancing how much time RDJ gets vs Norton, and the guys playing the three other big heroes, will be hard enough (particularly since it looks like this film will get stuck doing the "introduce Captain America to our world" story, which, to do properly, would require a considerable investment of time). I was a bit surprised they seemingly aren't going for the token woman (Black Widow would be the most likely, I think; a sexy Russian spy is easy to work in, compared with the redundant (and, since the Ant-Man is Lang, adrift) Wasp and the nonsensically-powered (and similarly backstory-adrift) Scarlet Witch).

Guy Gardener · September 17 2008, 02:05 AM

I guessing that there are studio and rights issues that if they used the Scarlet Witch, which they're not, would they even be allowed to mention her father by name at all?

Dream · September 17 2008, 02:33 AM

CaptainCanada wrote:

Assuming this all goes to plan, the film will have the stars of four or five (hopefully) success motion pictures teaming up, and that's before you get to supporting characters, villains, etc. Balancing how much time RDJ gets vs Norton, and the guys playing the three other big heroes, will be hard enough (particularly since it looks like this film will get stuck doing the "introduce Captain America to our world" story, which, to do properly, would require a considerable investment of time).

If the Avengers movie will be anything like the X-men movies which pretty much completely focused on the most popular character on the team then they should retitle the Avengers movie to Iron Man 1.5 already.

CaptainCanada · September 17 2008, 02:50 AM

Obviously, the focus will be on popular characters; in the Avengers' case, it will presumably be mitigated by the fact that all the main characters have had their own movies and thus independent fan bases, which will need to be balanced against each other.

Hermiod · September 17 2008, 07:09 AM

Thrall wrote:

No Spider-Woman or Ms. Marvel.

Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Pensive · September 17 2008, 08:14 PM

Hermiod wrote:

^NAMELY !?!?!

A big star-studded cast in Avengers won't be as impossible as it seems-- Oceans 11, 12, 13 all succeeded and look at that star power!

September 16 2008, 11:41 PM	#34
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Avengers movie: Desperate Wasp? They were raised by a cow. Bova. Cows don't have a problem with incest. It's no wonder they were brought up to consider each other a romantic possibility. Although it doesn't seem as though they acted on this in 616 continuity unlike Ultimate. Night Crawler (*&^ed his sister and no one has a problem with that. 60 miles an hour isn't that fast. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

September 17 2008, 02:05 AM	#41
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Avengers movie: Desperate Wasp? I guessing that there are studio and rights issues that if they used the Scarlet Witch, which they're not, would they even be allowed to mention her father by name at all? __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

September 17 2008, 02:50 AM	#43
CaptainCanada Admiral Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Re: Avengers movie: Desperate Wasp? Obviously, the focus will be on popular characters; in the Avengers' case, it will presumably be mitigated by the fact that all the main characters have had their own movies and thus independent fan bases, which will need to be balanced against each other. __________________ "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!" - Homer Simpson

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