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Old September 9 2008, 04:35 AM   #31
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Re: Lowering sea level.

Meanwhile we dig.

Not one, but three tunnels. Tom, Dick and Harry.

Dig!
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Old September 9 2008, 02:24 PM   #32
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I'm sure we could use the Large Hadron Collider to somehow open thousands of tiny wormholes into the oceans and transport water into space...
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Old September 9 2008, 03:29 PM   #33
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Re: Lowering sea level.

Since the world is supposed to end anyway, maybe I should go into one of these little black holes with the water, just to make sure it doesn't fall into the hands of aliens who would use it for weapons of mass destruction!
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Old September 9 2008, 04:24 PM   #34
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Put stargate on mars one on earth int he ocean, open the stargate and wait and wait even at that rate it would take a while to lower the sea level a centimeter. Though you could create some nice big lakes on mars.
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Old September 10 2008, 04:26 AM   #35
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We've had the ability to store matter as digital information since Tron. There's unlimited storage in cyberspace.
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Old September 13 2008, 02:14 AM   #36
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Tachyon Shield wrote: View Post
Ok, how about we dig a huge deep hole in northern Greenland, line it with water proof material and start pumping loads of water into it and then cover it over?
Do you understand the scale of the mega-engineering project you are proposing, and, are you aware that there are other methods which are much more plausible and less expensive to accomplish the same goal;

say for instance; just converting over to geothermal energy and quitting
oil?



Building a space bridge and then pumping water straight to orbit would be a smaller task and would fix the problem more directly by depositing water vapor where it can be zapped into o3.


Alternately, you could build a 75 mile tall windsock a mile or three in diameter and create a new super volcano somewhere 10 meters below sea level.



these are just examples...
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Old September 13 2008, 02:17 AM   #37
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Put stargate on mars one on earth int he ocean, open the stargate and wait and wait even at that rate it would take a while to lower the sea level a centimeter. Though you could create some nice big lakes on mars.
yes but since mars has no magnetic field to speak of and in any case is too
cold for water in liquid form, you'd be wasting water better sent to orbit for use later in space exploration.

If you could raise marses temperature, the water would gas into the atmosphere and be blown away by the cosmic wind, which is what happened to marses atmosphere the first time.



Perhaps you should leave these problems to the experts.
well, brainstorming can be fine if it doesn't go silly. Unless thats the point. Which maybe it is?
Do you want solutions to the problem ? Or is this human thought recreation?
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Old September 13 2008, 12:07 PM   #38
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say for instance; just converting over to geothermal energy and quitting
oil?
I'm talking about lowering the sea level drastically here, so drastically that we can reclaim land lost to the sea.

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Alternately, you could build a 75 mile tall windsock a mile or three in diameter and create a new super volcano somewhere 10 meters below sea level.
That doesn't make sense, you can't just make volcanoes and how on earth would that lower the sea level?
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Old September 13 2008, 01:08 PM   #39
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A better way might be to deploy about 700 ships equipped with firehose sprayers in the warm areas of the world's oceans. Each pumps up water from the sea and squirts it out in streams port and starboard, far from sealanes, to create a modest global-cooling effect and gradually restore Arctic and Antarctic ice. The cost is relative moderate (a few billion), and occasionally these ships can be called upon to perform rescue opeations (or maybe fight fires on land near a coastline, if you don't mind the salt.)

Not as much fun as the notion of a flat Earth, though.
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Old September 13 2008, 07:13 PM   #40
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I think you are all overlooking other factors. For instance when hydrogen fuel cells are perfected (whatever time that may be) and we have an essentially unlimited fuel supply. We American will start driving huge vehicles again. Except this time it will not stop at SUVs but we will be driving around in huge hydrogen powered monstrosities the size of a current RV.

All that fuel consumption, along with the water consumption of billions of extra people on the planet, will drain all the extra water out of the ocean.

Plus I like the filling up of the Grand Canyon idea. Those of you who say it will not fit just have to remember you can jump up and down on it alot and MAKE it fit!
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Old September 13 2008, 11:17 PM   #41
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All that fuel consumption, along with the water consumption of billions of extra people on the planet, will drain all the extra water out of the ocean.
Not really no, as the fuel is burned it turns into water again and re enters the 'water cycle' and will just end up back in the ocean.
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Old September 13 2008, 11:42 PM   #42
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Tachyon Shield wrote: View Post
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All that fuel consumption, along with the water consumption of billions of extra people on the planet, will drain all the extra water out of the ocean.
Not really no, as the fuel is burned it turns into water again and re enters the 'water cycle' and will just end up back in the ocean.
But if you had a lot of people and huge cars there would a temporary storage effect.

As to Yorkshire Independence, have you ever considered the advantages of being part of the United States?
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Old September 13 2008, 11:51 PM   #43
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As to Yorkshire Independence, have you ever considered the advantages of being part of the United States?
AS IF!
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Old September 14 2008, 12:37 AM   #44
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As to Yorkshire Independence, have you ever considered the advantages of being part of the United States?
AS IF!
Don't blow us off so quickly. You wouldn't have to change your patriotic colors. All the rich Britions would move their residences to your "state" to escape high UK taxes, so you could tax them too.

We have a kick-ass military, Disney on both coasts. No more visas to come and visit. You would have the best socc..., excuse me football and cricket players in the US. Sounds like a win/win to me!
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Old September 14 2008, 06:47 AM   #45
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Disney on both coasts.
Unfortunately we'd then have three coasts.
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