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Old September 4 2008, 01:13 AM   #31
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Re: Google ownz your browsing

Section 11 is beginning to sound like Section 31.

As for Google, looks like they do own a lot of things:

The Omnibox
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Old September 4 2008, 03:46 PM   #32
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And just a little off topic, what's the E.U.'s effort in OSs and browsers and media players?
MS was forced to release special versions of Windows, without the mediaplayer. It was called Windows XP N, I believe.

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How can Google "take over" anything when their browser is open source? At worst, everyone ignores it. At best, competing browsers integrate Chrome's good ideas.

Since keeping each tab in a separate process is kind of a no-brainer, I am more interested in their approach to JavaScript. The hidden class concept and sticking JS within a VM are both interesting ideas. I know that the thing that most often causes me trouble is misbehaving JavaScript. Always lagging my pages, stealing precious clock cycles.

I will probably wait until Chrome is more mature before I consider jumping aboard, but the ideas put forth are pretty interesting.
Google. The hype. That's two powerful weapons on the internet. Being opensource is an advantage. But in the present case, it will help all browsers, as it is what Google hopes. You can add the element of surprise since there were only some rumors about a gBrowser and then Chrome is popping out of the blue.

It seems to work since early and sketchy reports indicate Chrome has taken a 1% share on the web browsers market. That's very big, but it's still too early to make a bet. The hype worked, that's for sure.
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Old September 5 2008, 04:03 AM   #33
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Section 11 is beginning to sound like Section 31.

As for Google, looks like they do own a lot of things:

The Omnibox
Google already collects information when you use their search engine or any of their applications. Why should it surprise anyone that their browser, which queries their search engine for suggestions, also collects information?

And, of course, it can be disabled.

If people think Google's data mining is evil, by all means, don't use their stuff.
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Old September 5 2008, 12:31 PM   #34
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Since Google makes revenue through advertising I wonder if Chrome will feature 'Adblock' like FF? I dunno...just asking.
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Old September 5 2008, 12:49 PM   #35
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Since Google makes revenue through advertising I wonder if Chrome will feature 'Adblock' like FF? I dunno...just asking.
That is interesting - of course Goggle's ads are somewhat different and tend to be returned inside search results, but would blocking other people's be seen as plopping on their own doorstep??
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Old September 5 2008, 04:10 PM   #36
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I was worried about this too. Locutus of Bored though posted the link below in Misc.

Google is claiming that the EULA was copy and pasted from another EULA and that Section 11 is currently being amended.

http://gizmodo.com/5045050/google-up...be-less-creepy

Not saying I believe it. Just an FYI.
I wondered about this when I read on the BBC web site about the license text being revised: Link.
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Old September 5 2008, 07:39 PM   #37
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Since Google makes revenue through advertising I wonder if Chrome will feature 'Adblock' like FF? I dunno...just asking.
If someone writes a plugin to block ads, I strongly doubt Google would attempt to break compatibility with it. Besides that, the browser is open source, so all someone would have to do is fork the code, remove the AdBlock breakage, and everyone gets on with life as usual.

Your search patterns are much more valuable to Google than some lost ad revenue.
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Old September 5 2008, 11:09 PM   #38
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Yeah, I looked at the design of their new web browser and I wasn't impressed. While I'm a huge fan of the Google search engine and G-Mail, Chrome just sucks. I'll stick with IE7, thank you very much.
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Old September 6 2008, 12:25 AM   #39
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Our desk top is about is about 6 years old and due to upgraded before the end of the year...then I give chrome a trial run.
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Old September 6 2008, 01:41 AM   #40
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Eh. It's an OK browser.

No mouse gestures.

I think I'll stick with Opera.
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Old September 6 2008, 04:01 AM   #41
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Which isn't really the BBC's media player - Sky, BBC and (I think C4) all use the same underlying application for the media players - developed by a company called Kontiki.
Apple designs and manufactures very few components of consequence in the iPod, it's still their juggernaut.
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Old September 6 2008, 12:15 PM   #42
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Well I just tried out Chrome, and as I started this thread I thought I'd weigh in with some thoughts...

It is faster. I wasn't expecting it, but it's faster than Firefox.

But I can't use my middle mouse button for scroll like I can anywhere else... so that is enough to stop me using it straight off.
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Old September 7 2008, 09:56 AM   #43
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I have a friend at Google, and I asked him about that. He just said, "Well, it's still in beta."
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Old September 10 2008, 07:07 PM   #44
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Got this from I.T. today:

To: All xxxxx Employees

A recent corporate directive required all divisions to implement a network security policy to help prevent the installation and usage of the new Google Chrome web browser.

Employees must not install Google Chrome on any xxxxx computer asset.

Employees with home computers should also be wary of the product.

Please read the following for more information on the concerns of Google Chrome.

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10...orsPicksArea.0

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The auto-suggest feature of Google's new Chrome browser does more than just help users get where they are going. It will also give Google a wealth of information on what people are doing on the Internet besides searching.

Provided that users leave Chrome's auto-suggest feature on and have Google as their default search provider, Google will have access to any keystrokes that are typed into the browser's Omnibox, even before a user hits enter.

What's more, Google has every intention of retaining some of that data even after it provides the promised suggestions. A Google representative told CNET News that the company plans to store about 2 percent of that data--and plans to store it along with the Internet Protocol address of the computer that typed it.

In theory, that means that if one were to type the address of a site--even if they decide not to hit enter--they could leave incriminating evidence on Google's servers.

That said, individuals have a clear way to use Chrome and avoid having this occur. Turning off the auto-suggest feature means that Google will neither get nor store this information. One can also select a search provider other than Google as their default to avoid having their search queries stored by Google. (Update 11:45 a.m. PDT: Switching to Chrome's Incognito mode also switches off the auto-suggest features, the Google representative said.)

Beyond the individual level, though, there is the question of what Google will be able to do with all this information in aggregate. Folks already concerned about how much data Google has from its Web search history may well have another reason to worry. That is in addition to separate concerns raised by the product's End User License Agreement (EULA).
When I went to uninstall it, it asked if I was sure and added "Was it something we said?" LOL
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Old September 10 2008, 07:55 PM   #45
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I have a friend at Google, and I asked him about that. He just said, "Well, it's still in beta."
Aren't they always?

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Got this from I.T. today:

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When I went to uninstall it, it asked if I was sure and added "Was it something we said?" LOL
They might as well should forbid you to use the Google search engine because it also behaves like that when you type something in the search field. Works on any browser with Javascript enabled.

The Yahoo search engine also behaves that way. Won't be long before their competitors implement that function.

That said, I understand your IT departement's warning but it will become increasingly difficult to avoid that kind of function in the future.
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