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Old September 3 2008, 06:50 PM   #16
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And just a little off topic, what's the E.U.'s effort in OSs and browsers and media players?
Didn't the BBC bring out some kind of media player not long ago? or am I thinking of something else.
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Old September 3 2008, 07:10 PM   #17
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Chrome is really fast, faster than any I've tried. I've had some minor trouble with Firefox, and I've been able to use IE without the thing crashing. Chrome is nice but I hate that you can't mouse scroll down a page. But I'll keep trying it. When trekbbs is running slow, a little box comes up asking me if I'd like kill the page. I enjoy that for some reason.
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Old September 3 2008, 07:13 PM   #18
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Chrome will be better than FireFox, but browsers like IE8 are still the future.
Why? What's so special about IE8? (I haven't used it yet.)
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Old September 3 2008, 07:17 PM   #19
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Higher version number.

Firefox will have to jump straight to nine in order to stay ahead of the game.
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Old September 3 2008, 07:29 PM   #20
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Chrome will be better than FireFox, but browsers like IE8 are still the future.
Why? What's so special about IE8? (I haven't used it yet.)
It apparently has most of the features of Chrome, plus it's IE, so has the built in user base.
I have the beta installed, but I don't really use it, so I can't say I've noticed much difference to IE7.
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Old September 3 2008, 07:34 PM   #21
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I really hate Google these days.
I hate it when search engines or browsers try to hijack your system. If I want to use them I'll go find them thankyou.

I tend to type Google into MSN search half the time but there you go!
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Old September 3 2008, 07:56 PM   #22
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Hadn't heard of this, sounds interesting. I like the idea of trying to improve all web browsers through making their own.

Although some of their 'new' features are already available in IE8 Beta 2. IE8 finally has crash recovery and limits most crashes to the individual tab. All tabs are also opened in separate processes. Its URL bar works in a similar way to Chrome, it'll search through your history and favourites and so if you type in 'Car' it'll come up with all the relevant pages. Also IE8 now displays recently closed tabs when you open a new one, again similar to Chrome (although it doesn't show the most visited web pages), and it has it's own privacy option called inprivate browsing that works the same way as Chrome.

I don't use Firefox 3 very much but I suspect that many of these features I've listed are there as well. This isn't a criticism of Chrome though (I haven't even used the browser yet), I just wanted to point out that Google hasn't done all these first (regardless if they do them better).

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Old September 3 2008, 07:59 PM   #23
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And just a little off topic, what's the E.U.'s effort in OSs and browsers and media players?
Didn't the BBC bring out some kind of media player not long ago? or am I thinking of something else.
I think you're thinking of the BBC iPlayer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_iPlayer

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Old September 3 2008, 08:11 PM   #24
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Has anyone tried Safari? It installed with my last QT update, but I haven't really used it, beyond finding that the bookmark interface for imported IE favorites is too cumbersome.
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Old September 3 2008, 08:12 PM   #25
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Have you guys seen some of the Google offices?
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Old September 3 2008, 08:15 PM   #26
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And just a little off topic, what's the E.U.'s effort in OSs and browsers and media players?
Didn't the BBC bring out some kind of media player not long ago? or am I thinking of something else.
I think you're thinking of the BBC iPlayer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_iPlayer

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Which isn't really the BBC's media player - Sky, BBC and (I think C4) all use the same underlying application for the media players - developed by a company called Kontiki.
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Old September 3 2008, 08:15 PM   #27
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I use Safari on my Mac and I just love it. It's a great fast browser and it has all web standards supported. I'm looking forward to trying out Google's Chrome as it is not yet available in version for OS X. Btw, I'm new on here, nice to meet you everyone
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Old September 3 2008, 09:32 PM   #28
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How can Google "take over" anything when their browser is open source? At worst, everyone ignores it. At best, competing browsers integrate Chrome's good ideas.

Since keeping each tab in a separate process is kind of a no-brainer, I am more interested in their approach to JavaScript. The hidden class concept and sticking JS within a VM are both interesting ideas. I know that the thing that most often causes me trouble is misbehaving JavaScript. Always lagging my pages, stealing precious clock cycles.

I will probably wait until Chrome is more mature before I consider jumping aboard, but the ideas put forth are pretty interesting.
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Old September 3 2008, 11:39 PM   #29
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How can Google "take over" anything when their browser is open source? At worst, everyone ignores it. At best, competing browsers integrate Chrome's good ideas.
The same way that Firefox gained a respectable usage share of the browser market, or LAMP took over the server market--by being better than the competition.

Also, Google wants competing browsers to integrate their ideas. They'd be pleased as punch if IE has a Javascript engine as fast as Chrome's and a way to launch web apps like local apps.

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Since keeping each tab in a separate process is kind of a no-brainer, I am more interested in their approach to JavaScript. The hidden class concept and sticking JS within a VM are both interesting ideas. I know that the thing that most often causes me trouble is misbehaving JavaScript. Always lagging my pages, stealing precious clock cycles.

I will probably wait until Chrome is more mature before I consider jumping aboard, but the ideas put forth are pretty interesting.
I agree, the ideas are quite intriguing, and it seems to me like they would go a long way toward making a browser that would perform well on the web today. Should be interesting to see how Firefox responds.

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Old September 3 2008, 11:44 PM   #30
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I was worried about this too. Locutus of Bored though posted the link below in Misc.

Google is claiming that the EULA was copy and pasted from another EULA and that Section 11 is currently being amended.

http://gizmodo.com/5045050/google-up...be-less-creepy

Not saying I believe it. Just an FYI.
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