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Old September 2 2008, 01:09 PM   #1
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Google ownz your browsing

With the news that Google is finally bringing out a browser, I ask why?

They've done a comic strip to illustrate why... which is very sinister some how:
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

Reasons quoted include less crashes, and faster web pages.

Which are non-reasons in my opinion.

My browsers rarely crash, can't remember last time one crashed on me. As to faster web pages, certainly I have no problems with rendering pages. The only slowdown is on things like the network connection.

What this is about is control, pure and simple. There's no need for a new browser; they should be throwing their weight behind Firefox if they really want a strong competitor to MS.

I really hate Google these days.
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Old September 2 2008, 02:59 PM   #2
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I hate Google these days because I keep getting Error Msg #6502. The Help pages are an absolute joke, as there is no help available whatsoever.

I hate Yahoo! as well, but at least at some point I eventually manage to figure out how to reach a real human with them. With Google, you never do (reach somebody who actually works for them).
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Old September 2 2008, 03:12 PM   #3
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Re: Google ownz your browsing

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My browsers rarely crash, can't remember last time one crashed on me. As to faster web pages, certainly I have no problems with rendering pages. The only slowdown is on things like the network connection.
I'm using Firefox 3, and I've experienced several of the issues, especially the Javascript and crashing ones, just on the TrekBBS within the past few weeks. If Google can build a better browser and get it out there for free, well more options for us, and I say more power to 'em.
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Old September 2 2008, 03:14 PM   #4
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It sounds exciting to me and i'm looking forward to it. I'm sure it will be better than even firefox.
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Old September 2 2008, 03:31 PM   #5
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This is great, I'm looking forward to giving this a spin.

Hopefully they can do a little bit of revolutionizing.

I love how the OP just assumes that because his browser never crashed and his pages dont load slow, that clearly, NOBODY ELSE'S DOES! CLEARLY ITS SOME NEFARIOUS SCHEME.

I've experience exactly the same experiences that Gep Malakai mentioned the ones above. Not to mention Firefox is a MEMORY HOG when you start using multiple tabs. It has crashed more than few times for me.

IE is crap, and Firefox is average, only good in comparison to IE. Its not some god-like browser, it's over-hyped by the internet crowd, with multiple issues of its own. But when your only real competition is the bloated garbage that is IE, anything looks good.

Bring it on Google. Just make sure it's actually good.
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Old September 2 2008, 03:49 PM   #6
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My browsers rarely crash, can't remember last time one crashed on me. As to faster web pages, certainly I have no problems with rendering pages. The only slowdown is on things like the network connection.
I wouldn't say that Firefox crashes often, but it certainly crashes more often than anything else on this (Vista x64) system. Granted, it's used more often than most other applications too.

Regarding speed, using Joystiq as an example, in Internet Explorer I can spin the flywheel on my mouse and it'll scroll smoothly from top to bottom in the space of two seconds. Using Firefox it's closer to five seconds and it jerks and jumps all the way down. It has nothing to do with scroll speed settings, the additional delay on Firefox is caused by all the momentary pauses as it scrolls down the page, pauses which are visually disconcerting as well as time consuming. I don't know, or particularly care to know, the details as to what's going on there, but it's vaguely annoying.
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Old September 2 2008, 06:33 PM   #7
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They talk about multi-threading and multi-processing browsers as if they were a new thing. OmniWeb on the NeXT had all that back in the 90's.

I'll stick with Firefox for now.
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Old September 2 2008, 08:13 PM   #8
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I'm posting from Google Chrome right now. 8-)

Asthetically, it's really cool. Haven't run into any performance problems either.

Drag-off tabs to a new window is pretty cool.

So far it feels light and fast. Which instantly puts it above IE.

I'll need to test it out some more though, but if it handles memory better than Firefox, then I think I've found my new browser.
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Old September 2 2008, 08:27 PM   #9
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Seems very light and fast - I've crashed it twice in the space of an hour.

Sisko - if you right-click on the top board, you can access the task manager (rather than windows task manager) and get a good idea of what the footprint is.
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Old September 2 2008, 08:31 PM   #10
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that's a sharp little feature. Though to be honest, it doesn't look like its improving the memory usage all that much. It is having every tab and plugin as a seperate process, and its useful to see which one is sucking up how much memory. Not bad, but I wonder how it runs on Vista, i'll have to wait until i'm at home to try that out
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Old September 2 2008, 09:44 PM   #11
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I've just installed it, it does seem smoother than Firefox. I'll more than likely stay with Firefox, more out of familiarity than brand loyalty. But it seems to be a nice little addition to the browser contenders. I'll probably keep an eye on how it develops.
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Old September 2 2008, 10:36 PM   #12
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I'll shut down my thread since this is already here.

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So who here has downloaded and tried the new Google browser named Chrome? I'm using it now. Though it doesn't have all the bells and whistles as firefox 3 it seems to perfrom pretty well and is not annoying like safari for windows. So check it out when you get the chance.
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Old September 2 2008, 10:46 PM   #13
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137th Gebirg wrote: View Post
They talk about multi-threading and multi-processing browsers as if they were a new thing. OmniWeb on the NeXT had all that back in the 90's.
While I'm always happy to see people tout my favorite browser (OmniWeb) and one of my favorite platforms (NeXT), I think it is important to point out that NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/Rhapsody did not have multiprocessor support in any version released to the public. While they all had the potential, it wasn't until development started on Mac OS X that Apple included the actual ability. When running NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP or Rhapsody on a multiprocessor system, only one processor is used (first hand experience with both multiprocessor PCs and Macs).

That having been said, OmniWeb is an awesome browser. It has been my primary browser since 1997 and (in my opinion) makes the web a much more enjoyable experience.

As for the topic at hand... I don't understand why anyone would be upset by a company releasing a product. Either it'll be worth it or not. But short of them using anti competitive measures, why not just let them try?
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Old September 3 2008, 06:20 PM   #14
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Google wants competition and I think they want to bury Internet Explorer. With Chrome, they proved they can do it and shake the little world of web browsers. I hope their competitors (especially Microsoft) will be able to give them a proper answer.
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Old September 3 2008, 06:27 PM   #15
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Google wants competition and I think they want to bury Internet Explorer. With Chrome, they proved they can do it and shake the little world of web browsers. I hope their competitors (especially Microsoft) will be able to give them a proper answer.
Chrome will be better than FireFox, but browsers like IE8 are still the future.

People should not be worried about MS.

MS can hardly see the "browsers" still way back in the distance even from the top of the mountain.

And just a little off topic, what's the E.U.'s effort in OSs and browsers and media players?
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