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Old August 18 2008, 06:49 AM   #46
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You know, there is a word called "exaggeration." Feel free to look it up. When I likened M. Phelps to a superhuman we only read about in comic books, I was, of course, exaggerating.

You, on the other hand, have constantly dismissed M. Phelps' athletic achievements as if they were insignificant, or at worst, non-existent. That simply is NOT the case here.

From my perspective, all I'm saying is that I have more respect and admiration for M. Phelps (as I do for so many Olympic athletes and swimmers) than these so-called superstar American baseball/basketball/football players that many people seem to worship. To each his own, I suppose. One man's hero is another man's villain.
'Nuff said.
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Old August 18 2008, 07:15 AM   #47
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Because other athletes have to fight the full brunt of gravity, while fighting other athletes, while still having to perform, I don't know any swimmer I'de list in my top ten greatest athlete. Now if we're talking about top ten aerobic athletes or best low impact cardio athletes, okay now we're talking swimmers. I don't put swimming on the same level as rhythmic gymnastics, but it ain't all that far away.


Clearly a statement by someone who does not understand what competitive swimming entails at all.

"The full brunt of gravity"? Are you serious?
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Old August 18 2008, 09:44 AM   #48
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^From what I'm reading, he seems to think that swimming is easy, which is simply not true. Swimming is fucking hard work.
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Old August 18 2008, 10:57 AM   #49
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He's just a ridiculously hard trainer who happened to be born with the right body, including a literally freakish aerobic capacity. The latter is why he can recover as quickly as he can and why he can excel in an unprecedented program.
His build is freakish. But freakish in the way Frankenstein would have been if designed by swim coaches. He's double jointed which gives him that crazy power in his turns, has the wing span of a plane, and flippers with unprecedented amount of flexibility instead of feet.

Almost literally built for the sport.

And a face like Gomer Pyle.
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Old August 18 2008, 11:13 AM   #50
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His build is freakish. But freakish in the way Frankenstein would have been if designed by swim coaches. He's double jointed which gives him that crazy power in his turns, has the wing span of a plane, and flippers with unprecedented amount of flexibility instead of feet.

Almost literally built for the sport.
And a face like Gomer Pyle.
Uh-uh. Gomer Pyle is sort of cute. Phelps isn't. And at least we know Jim Nabors can sing. Can Phelps?
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Old August 18 2008, 02:54 PM   #51
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Phelps is cute and has a bloody amazing physique.
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Re: Michael Phelps - Is he human or metahuman?

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Because other athletes have to fight the full brunt of gravity, while fighting other athletes, while still having to perform, I don't know any swimmer I'de list in my top ten greatest athlete. Now if we're talking about top ten aerobic athletes or best low impact cardio athletes, okay now we're talking swimmers. I don't put swimming on the same level as rhythmic gymnastics, but it ain't all that far away.


Clearly a statement by someone who does not understand what competitive swimming entails at all.

"The full brunt of gravity"? Are you serious?
Guess we are completely discounting the fact that water is a hell of alot harder to pass through than is air.

But then, that's just a small nit, isn't it?
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Old August 18 2008, 07:54 PM   #53
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^From what I'm reading, he seems to think that swimming is easy, which is simply not true. Swimming is fucking hard work.
Yeah, let's throw him into a pool and see how long he lasts. I'll bet he doesn't even know how to swim.
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Yes, most athletes deal with gravity more than swimmers must, but they don't have to deal with being 90% submerged in an unbreathable liquid, or have to push hundreds of pounds of said liquid out of their way to go anywhere. Swimming is the best cardio workout there is because it is damn hard. Anyone who discounts swimming as a 'nice little sport' has either never swam or is plain retarded. (does it count as a flame if I include multiple options?)
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Old August 25 2008, 05:33 AM   #55
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^I think it counts as a flame because you bolded and italicized it.
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Old August 27 2008, 04:06 AM   #56
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Yes, most athletes deal with gravity more than swimmers must, but they don't have to deal with being 90% submerged in an unbreathable liquid, or have to push hundreds of pounds of said liquid out of their way to go anywhere. Swimming is the best cardio workout there is because it is damn hard. Anyone who discounts swimming as a 'nice little sport' has either never swam or is plain retarded.
Don't get your panties in bunch, Precious. I never said what Phelps did was "easy". I even said that swimming was a great cardio workout, so we agree on something at least. Its all about reading comprehension, isn't it. But consider, how many times have you finished a long swim, jumped out of the pool and went for a nice long -- run -- to cool off. Now how many times have you done the opposite? I'm just saying.

It appears that the mention of "gravity" as a reality that has to be accounted for by all athletes one way or another seems to have thrown a few people. Surprising considering we're all Trek fans. Anyway, without restating everything I've already written, suffice it to say that gravity makes a HUGE difference between competition that takes place on land and that which takes place in water. Oh gravity does affect swimmers, just not as negatively as it does runners, or jumpers, or throwers, or walkers. There are many many greater athletes in much more difficult sports than swimming.

But this is really off topic as my original point wasn't to denigrate Phelps' 8 gold medals, but merely to offer some perspective to the thread starter who wanted to know whether or not he had seen more than just a "mere" human.

Keep in mind, Phelps won only one more gold medal than Mark Spitz did, and Spitz did it over 30 years ago. And did I anyone mention relays? Also, I don't think its a coincidence that these gaudy medal counts were both accomplished in the sport of swimming. Oops, there I go.
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Old August 27 2008, 06:53 PM   #57
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Keep in mind, Phelps won only one more gold medal than Mark Spitz did, and Spitz did it over 30 years ago. And did I anyone mention relays? Also, I don't think its a coincidence that these gaudy medal counts were both accomplished in the sport of swimming. Oops, there I go.
You may have denied it, but you only continue to show your ignorance when it comes to swimming. Of course, in your own little universe, people move faster underwater than they walk on land through dry air. Gravity-schmavity.
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