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Old August 21 2008, 04:56 PM   #766
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Re: Destiny: What we know - major spoilers may feature

Amazing how an actual example of the actual work has suddenly stiffled all the "Oh no, not another Borg story" kvetching, isn't it?
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Old August 21 2008, 05:04 PM   #767
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Amazing how an actual example of the actual work has suddenly stiffled all the "Oh no, not another Borg story" kvetching, isn't it?

Well I thought it was average and still don't plan to pick it up - hope that helps. I don't really see the point, however, of coming on here day after day to repeat the point that I don't plan to buy it.
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Old August 21 2008, 06:05 PM   #768
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Well I thought it was average and still don't plan to pick it up - hope that helps.
WTF? How is that supposed to "help"?
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Old August 21 2008, 06:07 PM   #769
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I suppose it helps toward restoring the usual level of negativity that Internet bulletin boards require for their proper functioning.
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Old August 21 2008, 06:09 PM   #770
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William Leisner wrote: View Post
Amazing how an actual example of the actual work has suddenly stiffled all the "Oh no, not another Borg story" kvetching, isn't it?
Hang on. We'll think of something else.

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Well I thought it was average and still don't plan to pick it up - hope that helps. I don't really see the point, however, of coming on here day after day to repeat the point that I don't plan to buy it.
What, did you miss that class as part of the internet orientation package?
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Old August 22 2008, 03:00 PM   #771
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Re: Destiny: What we know - major spoilers may feature

Well David, I have to say from the except I read over on TrekWeb the other day, this whole triology is going to be awesome and the biggest event of all the books of the year. Glad to see that the calendar featuring the found Columbia was mentioned to have been explored before the start of the Dominion War. Any hints to if we are going to see flashbacks to those scenes of the Columbia first being found? I"m just happy that the image was finally used to set up a story. Can't wait for the first book comes out.
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Old August 22 2008, 04:03 PM   #772
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Any hints to if we are going to see flashbacks to those scenes of the Columbia first being found? I"m just happy that the image was finally used to set up a story. Can't wait for the first book comes out.
In fact, that event is depicted in the prologue; it's just a quirk of the S&S site that when they run excerpts, they run Chapter 1 by default, and almost always skip the prologues.
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Old August 23 2008, 09:03 AM   #773
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Re: Destiny: What we know - major spoilers may feature

Love the idea of themes when it comes to naming a class of starship.

Although if there's seven ships and one is presumably the Vesta, is there one of the seven hills currently not represented?

Haven't read anything of this thread, but will the class get a pretty good description of what it looks like in the books? Or any artwork forthcoming?
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Love the idea of themes when it comes to naming a class of starship.

Although if there's seven ships and one is presumably the Vesta, is there one of the seven hills currently not represented?

Haven't read anything of this thread, but will the class get a pretty good description of what it looks like in the books? Or any artwork forthcoming?
There is no USS Vesta, the ships are named for the hills, but Vesta is the class name.
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Old August 23 2008, 10:47 AM   #775
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And David said a few pages back that he left the design description nebulous (my words not his) so that the art department weren't too constricted if and when they design an image of it, but he did say it was sleek and by the fact it has a crew compliment of 750, it's larger than say a Luna Class and probably not far off a Sovereign class.
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Old August 23 2008, 03:15 PM   #776
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^ Interesting. It seems authors envision crew densities going back up. 750 in a Sovereign represents a 30% increase in crew complement per unit volume over an Intrepid.
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Old August 24 2008, 07:13 PM   #777
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Re: Destiny trilogy - pretty heavy spoilers

Haven't really kept up with Trek novels or read anything outside the DS9 relaunch (last read Warpath over a year ago I guess) but the excerpt got my attention. I'll be interested to read the reviews after the first book comes out.
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Old August 25 2008, 08:58 AM   #778
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There is no USS Vesta, the ships are named for the hills, but Vesta is the class name.
Huh. A little different, but okay.
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Old August 26 2008, 12:35 AM   #779
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That excerpt looks pretty good. If there's one little thing that bothers me (and it is pretty little) it's that line about the Vesta class being the "only Starfleet ships that can even moderately defend themselves against the Borg" and how they're strategically placed to defend core systems. With a few exceptions, I've never felt that Star Trek has done a great job of portraying a believable Star Fleet. I know I'm reading a lot into this little throw-away line, but it almost seems like something you'd hear on Power Rangers, ya know? "Our old giant robots are useless against this new threat, we need brand new ones again".

I mean, are the guns on the Vesta class ships so much more advanced than the ones the rest of the fleet has? If so, Starfleet's falling down on the job because apparently they have hundreds of obsolescent ships and maybe less than a dozen ships (only 7?) that are somehow way far ahead on the tech curve. Again, it's a minor point to be sure, but this illogical technical stuff tends to rip me right out of the story.
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Old August 26 2008, 12:38 AM   #780
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^^Dang, now I want to see a Megazord take on a Borg cube...
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