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Old August 25 2008, 01:29 AM   #46
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As for the question of cameos mucking up the works, I read about this Bob Hope movie called "The Paleface," a western comedy. Apparently, according to the IMDB trivia (or maybe Wikipedia?), Bob Hope had so much influence back then that he got a crazy amount of cameos from all the western superluminaries of the time. He had James Arness as Matt Dillon, James Garner as Brett Maverick, Fess Parker as Davy Crockett, and others. It seems that no TV presentation or video release of The Paleface has ever been totally complete, because they weren't allowed to use some of the cameos outside of the theatrical release. I don't know any of the whys and wherefores of that, but there might be a similar situation like that for Batman.
In that case, the issue would probably be the use of copyrighted characters, not the appearance of the actors. Although it's true that a couple of the "window cameos" in Batman were performers in character as their contemporary sitcom roles (though not explicitly named as such), including Werner Klemperer as Col. Klink and Ted Cassidy as Lurch.
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Old August 25 2008, 01:36 AM   #47
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As for the question of cameos mucking up the works, I read about this Bob Hope movie called "The Paleface," a western comedy. Apparently, according to the IMDB trivia (or maybe Wikipedia?), Bob Hope had so much influence back then that he got a crazy amount of cameos from all the western superluminaries of the time. He had James Arness as Matt Dillon, James Garner as Brett Maverick, Fess Parker as Davy Crockett, and others. It seems that no TV presentation or video release of The Paleface has ever been totally complete, because they weren't allowed to use some of the cameos outside of the theatrical release. I don't know any of the whys and wherefores of that, but there might be a similar situation like that for Batman.
In that case, the issue would probably be the use of copyrighted characters, not the appearance of the actors. Although it's true that a couple of the "window cameos" in Batman were performers in character as their contemporary sitcom roles (though not explicitly named as such), including Werner Klemperer as Col. Klink and Ted Cassidy as Lurch.
Yeah, now that you mention it, that's probably true. Although, since we've no way to see those Paleface cameos, there's no way to know whether a character was specifically identified as Davy Crockett, or whether it was just Fess Parker in a coonskin cap. That could probably still cause problems, though.
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Old August 25 2008, 01:44 AM   #48
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Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

Klink? How'd they manage that? Batman shows up at Stalag 13?
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Old August 25 2008, 02:42 AM   #49
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No, it was just one of their bits where B&R were climbing up the side of a building on a rope (actually a horizontal building facade with the camera turned sideways) and a celebrity would pop out of a window and exchange a few lines with them before they resumed their climb. No attempt was made to explain the anachronism of Klemperer/Klink's appearance, because he wasn't explicitly acknowledged as Col. Klink (although I believe Batman did ask him to pass along his regards to Col. Hogan).
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Old August 25 2008, 03:51 AM   #50
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Another example of how even creativity was freer then. If a cameo worked, and if you could do it, you just did it. One time on The Lucy Show, she was inducted by mistake, and when the mistake was corrected, the Sarge said that he could never imagine a bigger screw-up than her. On that cue, in walks Jim Nabors, playing you-know-who in all but name. Prolly in those days, Lucy called Danny Thomas (Producer of Andy Griffith and Gomer Pyle), and DT said 'Sure!' and that was that.
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Old August 25 2008, 03:52 AM   #51
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Look what I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHD_53UqBeA

They might have trouble with the use of the Addam's Family theme in this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT5dz...eature=related
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Old August 25 2008, 07:49 AM   #52
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In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously
Not me.

It never fell out of favour with me at any stage, even when I did the "serious adolescent" thing. Later on from that, I remember it being re-run in the mornings back in the late 80's, so I'd watch it before I went to work. It always put a smile on my face. Especially when Julie Newmar was guest-villainessing.



For me, Batman works best when it's at extremes - totally silly and camp, or totally serious. Therefore I love the 60's stuff and the Nolan movies pretty much equally.
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Old August 25 2008, 12:14 PM   #53
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In my experience, the Adam West Batman is a show that you love as a serious adventure series when you're a kid, then dismiss as silly and campy when you reach adolescence and want to take everything seriously, then love again when you're fully grown up and finally figure out that it was a sitcom and was intentionally silly and campy, not to mention quite clever and subversive at times.
Absolutely. I saw the movie last year after about 25 years, I was surprised as my reaction; it's a work of genius. I absolutely loved it, and I loved the show when I was a kid.
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Old August 25 2008, 12:21 PM   #54
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If thats the case, whats the story with the first Batman movie (1966)? Why wasn't that affected by this dispute?
Not sure, but I picked up a copy for good measure myself.

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Old August 25 2008, 01:48 PM   #55
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Good grief, that was awful. Not one of their better-written window gags.
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Old August 25 2008, 03:31 PM   #56
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I've never stopped enjoying 60's Batman at any age either, at least the third season.

Being exposed to Yvonne Craig in purple pleather, frequently in bondage, greatly affected my 8 year old mind and eventual sexuality. The scene with Batman, Robin and Batgirl "tied up" in the Siamese Human Knot is forever burned into my fantasy life.
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Old August 25 2008, 04:01 PM   #57
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Good grief, that was awful. Not one of their better-written window gags.
Perhaps this one is better...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUuv_fEJMpI&feature=related

I just love the introductions...
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Old August 25 2008, 08:09 PM   #58
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Re: Why No 1960s Batman TV Series on VHS, DVD, etc.?

Fantastic show, one of the staples of my afternoon TV-watching as a child of the late 70s and early 80s. I hope they can work something out someday, as my cruddy VHS recordings are not improving with age.

Plus, imagining Yvonne Craig and Julie Newmar in digital (or even HD) clarity? Meow!
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Old August 26 2008, 12:04 AM   #59
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"Gosh, Batman, what're they dressed like that for?" A very standard comic book line, but Ward's delivery nails it.

This one has to top them all for pure absurdity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_5j...eature=related
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Old August 26 2008, 12:24 AM   #60
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Santa was played there by Andy Devine, a noted comedic character actor of the day. Interesting that Batman actually breaks the fourth wall and speaks right to the camera.

And have you noticed that they're always climbing the exact same wall with the exact same scenery behind it?
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