Superman: The Reboot --- Its official - Page 2

Turd Ferguson · August 22 2008, 06:28 PM

I think this is great news. Although I did like parts of Superman Returns (I liked Routh as Clark and Kevin Spacey as Lex) the rest of the movie just didn't do it for me. Personally, I didn't mind that he had a son, I just didn't like the creepy stalker aspect of Superman. It'll be great to have a new Lois, since Bosworth looked too young and was too stiff to be Lois.

On the villain front, I wouldn't mind if Luthor was in it, but maybe in the background, setting him up to be a villain in the next movie or two movies later. If it was an origin story, then the Eradicator might be cool.

T'Baio · August 22 2008, 06:32 PM

*COUGH*toldyouso*COUGH*

Ahem...sorry.

Harvey · August 22 2008, 06:36 PM

Well, if they're going to go darker, which doesn't fit with (my admittedly limited) knowledge of Superman, I hope they at least use the lightness of Superman as a counterpoint to the dark world around. Otherwise, why even use the character?

Bad Bishop · August 22 2008, 06:37 PM

T'Baio wrote:

*COUGH*toldyouso*COUGH*

Ahem...sorry.

Don't worry, we were bracing for this. We've had two years of WB execs saying nothing good about Superman Returns.

Stone_Cold_Sisko · August 22 2008, 06:39 PM

They did say darker 'as much as the characters allow' or something, which is a good sign.

davejames · August 22 2008, 06:49 PM

Bad Bishop wrote:

T'Baio wrote:

*COUGH*toldyouso*COUGH*

Ahem...sorry.

Don't worry, we were bracing for this. We've had two years of WB execs saying nothing good about Superman Returns.

In a way, I can't really blame them. As much as I liked the movie, it CLEARLY didn't generate much excitement in the fanbase, and it would have been hard to get those same people fired up for the sequel.

If they're going to sink another $200 million or so into a Superman movie, they want to be damn sure people are excited to see it.

JacksonArcher · August 22 2008, 06:55 PM

Like I said in another thread, I would have liked to have seen a continuation to Superman Returns under the direction of Bryan Singer but I am open to a new interpretation.

What if, though, the Superman property is like Hulk? That movie got a reboot and it was only just enough successful as the first movie, and now there seems to be no signs of a sequel. I have a feeling that the same situation will repeat itself here, but I am cautiously optimistic.

I just want a good movie.

Trekker4747 · August 22 2008, 06:56 PM

Only thing I really care about is that they keep the theme and opening titles sequence. I think that's as iconic to Superman as the Bond theme and opening titles is to that franchise.

Frankly, I think Superman could do with a *degree* of "reboot." But I don't kmow about "dark."

Captain Craig · August 22 2008, 06:57 PM

Bad Bishop wrote:

Captain Craig wrote:

We've talked about it ad nauseam for the last 2 years. Multiple threads. The recent limbo talks have now moved to flat out REBOOT.

Bye bye Jason.
Bye bye Bosworth

I guess you're the only one here who's certain that Routh will be back.

No, hes just the only thing I would carry over.
Spacey in a non-Donnoresque land grab Pre-Crisis Luthor would be nice as well. I'm not holding my breath.

CaptainWacky · August 22 2008, 07:11 PM

Why don't they just try NOT making a new Superman movie?

RobertScorpio · August 22 2008, 07:15 PM

Forbin wrote:

Great, yet another take on the origin story? How many times have we seen superhero origin films now? Can't they make one damn film where the superhero is already established, so we don't have to go over the same damn ground again and again and again?

Jeez.

I agree...SUPERMAN should never be dark. They shouldn't try to be like Marvel. Batman is probably the most 'marvel' of the DC heroes. But SUPERMAN? Make a dark superman and I won't go...bad idea.

Rob
Scorpio

The Borgified Corpse · August 22 2008, 07:40 PM

This bums me out to hear. I liked Superman Returns more than most people did. In fact, I LOVED it. I think it's one of the most beautiful movies ever made and stands up as Bryan Singer's masterpiece.

As for this news, I imagine it's true but I'm not going to put much stock into anything I hear until we start hearing writers, directors, & actors attached to this project.

One thing that Warner Bros. seems to be forgetting-- developing a Superman movie is HARD. Don't they remember all the years and all the millions of dollars wasted on aborted Superman concepts in the 1990s? Tim Burton & Nicolas Cage were paid $20 million each to NOT make Superman Lives. Wolfgang Petersen was all set to direct Batman vs. Superman before he ditched it to do Troy instead. J.J. Abrams wrote a script that everyone at Warner Bros. loved until someone leaked it to AICN and everyone realized that it changed way too many aspects of the franchise to satisfy the fans (though it was still closer than anything Burton wanted to do). Then they spent years passing some variant of the Abrams script back & forth between McG & Brett Ratner. Only when Bryan Singer, a man of spectacular vision & love for the character, joined the project, did anything get done.

Alas, I have a sinking feeling that we're going to see Superman get stuck in another 2 decades of development hell unless they start talking to Singer again.

T'Baio · August 22 2008, 07:47 PM

JacksonArcher wrote:

Like I said in another thread, I would have liked to have seen a continuation to Superman Returns under the direction of Bryan Singer but I am open to a new interpretation.

Has your love of The Dark Knight tempered your love for this franchise?

Samurai8472 · August 22 2008, 07:55 PM

Stone_Cold_Sisko wrote:

They did say darker 'as much as the characters allow' or something, which is a good sign.

so superman won't be throwing knives and having homicidal tendencies.

this really reeks of WB trying to emulate the darkness of "the dark knight"

Don't they realize it won't work for Superman who I've always envisioned in a bright and frank capra type world.

Aragorn · August 22 2008, 08:01 PM

From the director of Seven and Fight Club...

SUPERMAN

Starring Clive Owen

"I'm the goddamn Superman!"

It's funny how these studio heads seem to always have it bass ackward.

"We want to emulate The Dark Knight, so Superman will be as dark as the character allows for it!"

"We want to emulate The Dark Knight, so we're recutting Punisher to PG-13!"

August 22 2008, 06:28 PM	#16
Turd Ferguson Commodore Location: Kentucky	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial I think this is great news. Although I did like parts of Superman Returns (I liked Routh as Clark and Kevin Spacey as Lex) the rest of the movie just didn't do it for me. Personally, I didn't mind that he had a son, I just didn't like the creepy stalker aspect of Superman. It'll be great to have a new Lois, since Bosworth looked too young and was too stiff to be Lois. On the villain front, I wouldn't mind if Luthor was in it, but maybe in the background, setting him up to be a villain in the next movie or two movies later. If it was an origin story, then the Eradicator might be cool. __________________ "Divine intervention is unlikely." - The Doctor

August 22 2008, 06:32 PM	#17
T'Baio Admiral Location: Ontario, Canada	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial COUGHtoldyousoCOUGH Ahem...sorry. __________________ Posthuman: A Science Fiction Web Series at www.sfntv.com and www.whatisameme.com, on the TrekBBS, and on the social network.

August 22 2008, 06:36 PM	#18
Harvey Admiral	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial Well, if they're going to go darker, which doesn't fit with (my admittedly limited) knowledge of Superman, I hope they at least use the lightness of Superman as a counterpoint to the dark world around. Otherwise, why even use the character? __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

August 22 2008, 06:39 PM	#20
Stone_Cold_Sisko Vice Admiral	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial They did say darker 'as much as the characters allow' or something, which is a good sign.

August 22 2008, 06:55 PM	#22
JacksonArcher Vice Admiral	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial Like I said in another thread, I would have liked to have seen a continuation to Superman Returns under the direction of Bryan Singer but I am open to a new interpretation. What if, though, the Superman property is like Hulk? That movie got a reboot and it was only just enough successful as the first movie, and now there seems to be no signs of a sequel. I have a feeling that the same situation will repeat itself here, but I am cautiously optimistic. I just want a good movie. __________________ Bane: "When Gotham is ashes... you have my permission to die." - The Dark Knight Rises

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August 22 2008, 06:56 PM	#23
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial Only thing I really care about is that they keep the theme and opening titles sequence. I think that's as iconic to Superman as the Bond theme and opening titles is to that franchise. Frankly, I think Superman could do with a degree of "reboot." But I don't kmow about "dark." __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.

August 22 2008, 07:11 PM	#25
CaptainWacky Rear Admiral Location: CaptainWacky	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial Why don't they just try NOT making a new Superman movie? __________________ Let's make sure history never forgets the name Big Matty. Troll Kingdom - Under New Management

August 22 2008, 07:40 PM	#27
The Borgified Corpse Admiral Location: Making closing arguments with Jack McCoy & Michael Cutter	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial This bums me out to hear. I liked Superman Returns more than most people did. In fact, I LOVED it. I think it's one of the most beautiful movies ever made and stands up as Bryan Singer's masterpiece. As for this news, I imagine it's true but I'm not going to put much stock into anything I hear until we start hearing writers, directors, & actors attached to this project. One thing that Warner Bros. seems to be forgetting-- developing a Superman movie is HARD. Don't they remember all the years and all the millions of dollars wasted on aborted Superman concepts in the 1990s? Tim Burton & Nicolas Cage were paid $20 million each to NOT make Superman Lives. Wolfgang Petersen was all set to direct Batman vs. Superman before he ditched it to do Troy instead. J.J. Abrams wrote a script that everyone at Warner Bros. loved until someone leaked it to AICN and everyone realized that it changed way too many aspects of the franchise to satisfy the fans (though it was still closer than anything Burton wanted to do). Then they spent years passing some variant of the Abrams script back & forth between McG & Brett Ratner. Only when Bryan Singer, a man of spectacular vision & love for the character, joined the project, did anything get done. Alas, I have a sinking feeling that we're going to see Superman get stuck in another 2 decades of development hell unless they start talking to Singer again. __________________ Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."

August 22 2008, 08:01 PM	#30
Aragorn Admiral	Re: Superman: The Reboot --- Its offcial From the director of Seven and Fight Club... SUPERMAN Starring Clive Owen "I'm the goddamn Superman!" It's funny how these studio heads seem to always have it bass ackward. "We want to emulate The Dark Knight, so Superman will be as dark as the character allows for it!" "We want to emulate The Dark Knight, so we're recutting Punisher to PG-13!"