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Old August 11 2008, 02:48 PM   #16
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Re: Sony's Perceived Idiocy.

^ Hardly. I used Sony Trinitron TVs for years. They were the best around from the mid '70s to the mid '90s. Like any company, they can make both great and terrible stuff. Mostly they have made pretty good equipment but occasionally, with things like Minidisc, boy, could they pull a boner and call it a flowering rose.

But it is their arrogance that has been their downfall. They are more self righteous than General Motors was in their heyday. They have taken some hits in the past few years and maybe a new corporate management style - an American now heads the company, very different for a Japanese firm - will get them to realise when their shit stinks, it really stinks.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:02 PM   #17
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Mostly they have made pretty good equipment but occasionally, with things like Minidisc, boy, could they pull a boner and call it a flowering rose.
MiniDisc was a flowering rose. It's hardly Sony's fault that Americans have no sense of smell.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:06 PM   #18
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Sony makes shit products, always have but now people are finally starting to realize it.
The PS1 & PS2 at the time of there release where top notch inventions so that statement is complete B/S...PS - I hate SONY now but still won't rag on them for a good past despite there fall into total evil in the present day.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:07 PM   #19
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Mostly they have made pretty good equipment but occasionally, with things like Minidisc, boy, could they pull a boner and call it a flowering rose.
MiniDisc was a flowering rose. It's hardly Sony's fault that Americans have no sense of smell.
It sounded like shit. About the only thing Sony did right with Minidisc was their success with it in the professional market. It was a great replacement for units that used cheap tape drives, like radio station cart machines.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:08 PM   #20
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Sony makes shit products, always have but now people are finally starting to realize it.

Well, if were talking videogaming....

Currently, I think the have the best library and the best hardware IMO. Their reliability thus far has been outstanding as well. I've really been impressed with the PS3 and the PSP.

I have never really been a big fan of their Home Theater stuff (except the PS3, which I consider one of the best Home Theater products ever made) but I do like their TV's. They're just a little on the pricey side vs comparable models.

I think they make pretty decent point-and-shoot cameras (I have a Cybershot myself) but I'd probably go elsewhere if your looking for something more serious.

I don't know. I don't see what the big deal is really. I guess I just haven't been traumatically affected by their "dishonest" practices.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:14 PM   #21
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Mostly they have made pretty good equipment but occasionally, with things like Minidisc, boy, could they pull a boner and call it a flowering rose.
MiniDisc was a flowering rose. It's hardly Sony's fault that Americans have no sense of smell.
It sounded like shit.
Compared to CD? Sure.

Compared to the Compact Cassette it was intended to replace, or 128kbps MP3/AAC as most often employed by the devices that did eventually replace the Walkman? Not so much. PCDPs were a joke at the time MiniDisc was introduced.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:19 PM   #22
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^ I'll agree with that.
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Old August 11 2008, 03:20 PM   #23
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When it came to SONY, I only cared about the gaming side of the company and I loved the Playstation 1 and Playstation 2. However when SONY announced the PS3, It soured any relationship I had with the company...

* The console cost far too much for me to buy

* The big reason for the price tag was due to them making it more of a home entertainment system than a console...All I wanted was a console

* I can understand why they want Blue Ray but end of the day price is a big factor for most people. I am happy having 2 disk games at the end of day if you can't fit everything onto 1.

* X Box LIVE was a huge factor, as I love to play CO-OP with a old school mate of mine and SONY online just blew when released and its not much better since that day.

* Sony loss all there major exclusive games bar 1 or 2, so the 360 was cheaper with the same games plus there own stuff with LIVE.

360 is probably not as good as SONY in terms of specs in that its a little too loud with a lousy Disk reader and of course the red ring (I've never had it and too be fair, it's now fixed plus the whole warranty thing)

end of the day it came down to price. (must stop typing)
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Old August 11 2008, 08:49 PM   #24
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Re: Sony's Perceived Idiocy.

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Sony makes shit products, always have but now people are finally starting to realize it.
The PS1 & PS2 at the time of there release where top notch inventions so that statement is complete B/S...
PS1 & PS2 were hardly "top notch" on the reliability side (not as bad as 360 before someone mentions it. Thankfully the ps3 is a much much better design
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Old August 11 2008, 09:37 PM   #25
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I don't know anyone whose PS1 & 2 broke down...only counting those (who did not modify or chip there PS). They always seemed very sterdy items
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Old August 11 2008, 09:40 PM   #26
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^There was a class action lawsuit against Sony due to the significant failure rate of the DVD drives in some early PS2's.
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Old August 11 2008, 09:41 PM   #27
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Never said the old ones were perfect
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Old August 11 2008, 09:45 PM   #28
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there was problems with original playstation and also ps2 drives. Went through quite a few original playstation. The most common problem:

With the early units, many gamers experienced skipping full-motion video or dreaded physical "ticking" noises coming from their PlayStations. The problem appears to have come from poorly placed vents leading to overheating in some environments—the plastic moldings inside the console would warp very slightly and create knock-on effects with the laser assembly. The solution was to ensure the console was sat on a surface which dissipated heat efficiently in a well vented area, or raise the unit up slightly by propping something at its edges. A common fix for already affected consoles was to turn the PlayStation sideways or upside-down (thereby using gravity to cancel the effects of the warped interior) although some gamers smacked the lid of the PlayStation to make a game load or work.
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Old August 11 2008, 09:52 PM   #29
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Never said the old ones were perfect
My PS2's drive had this problem. It would eventually stop being able to read CD-ROM discs. Not DVDs, just CDs.
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Old August 12 2008, 06:57 AM   #30
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They have taken some hits in the past few years and maybe a new corporate management style - an American now heads the company, very different for a Japanese firm - will get them to realise when their shit stinks, it really stinks.
Howard Stringer is decidedly British though :P

The PSOne and early PS2's were definitely notorious for their hardware problems. Great libraries though.
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