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Old July 27 2008, 04:47 PM   #346
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I'm writing an article on TDK and could use a memory jog. Generally in the movie, torture doesn't work (not against the Joker, or the insane guy Dent threatens to kill).
Didnt it work on the insane guy though?
My understanding of the scene was he didn't know any good information to divulge in the first place, and only acted as though he did because of his insanity. Then Batman shows up and tells Dent something useful...
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Old July 27 2008, 04:50 PM   #347
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^^ you are probably right in that he didnt have anything useful, but it did seem like the torture worked in the sense that if the guy had have known something, he would have spilled it.
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Old July 27 2008, 06:17 PM   #348
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Why didn't the city have a big reward out for the Joker, anyway?

Fight fire with money.

I think the movie should've ended with Wayne waking up and it all being a dream caused by the Scarecrow's fear toxin.

Then Bobby Ewing emerges from the shower. "Honey, it's over, none of that happened. We're together and I love you. And I'm getting you all wet."
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Old July 27 2008, 07:55 PM   #349
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Batman buried his rivals at the North American box office for a second weekend on Sunday, racing past $300 million in a record 10 days.

The Caped Crusader's blockbuster outing, "The Dark Knight," sold an estimated $75.6 million worth of tickets during the three days beginning Friday, taking its total to $314.2 million, distributor Warner Bros. Pictures said.

A week after it scored a record-breaking $158 million opening, "The Dark Knight" added a new title to its impressive list of superlatives: the best second weekend, surpassing the holiday-boosted $72 million haul of 2004's "Shrek 2."

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"The Dark Knight" now ranks as the second-biggest movie of the year, just behind the $315 million haul of "Iron Man," and the 23rd-biggest of all time.

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Old July 27 2008, 08:00 PM   #350
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I wonder if it'll hit $500 million.
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Old July 27 2008, 08:15 PM   #351
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^ I think that it may if people keep going to see it like they have been.
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Old July 28 2008, 12:19 AM   #352
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Yeah I kinda know what you mean. I had a hard time buying that his burns and the loss of Rachel, as bad as those things were, would actually send him over the edge and turn him into a raving, bloodthirsty madman; he just seemed to be too decent a guy for that.
He may have seemed that way to you, but he wasn't; witness his behavior in the alley after Rachel is captured, before Batman shows up and stops him.
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Old July 28 2008, 12:30 AM   #353
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Yeah I kinda know what you mean. I had a hard time buying that his burns and the loss of Rachel, as bad as those things were, would actually send him over the edge and turn him into a raving, bloodthirsty madman; he just seemed to be too decent a guy for that.
He may have seemed that way to you, but he wasn't; witness his behavior in the alley after Rachel is captured, before Batman shows up and stops him.
Right. That was the implication of his nickname while at Internal Affairs. That cops called him "Two Face" before his scarring would suggest the traditional meaning of that phrase. That he was a bit of a phony. Willing to tell people what they want to hear. Even if it contradicts what he tells others. I wish that this had been more explicitly shown though.
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Old July 28 2008, 12:41 AM   #354
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Let's not forget that he manipulated people into doing things his way by flipping a coin that could only land on heads. Dent was a good man, but there were some definite chinks in his shining armor.
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Old July 28 2008, 01:12 AM   #355
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^ Exactly. But I can also remember his comment regarding the coin late in the movie. He said that sometimes you have to make your own luck.
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Old July 28 2008, 01:18 AM   #356
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^ Exactly. But I can also remember his comment regarding the coin late in the movie. He said that sometimes you have to make your own luck.
I don't think he used the coin to manipulate people so much as he used it to "get his way."

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Old July 28 2008, 01:50 AM   #357
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I think it is assured that Nolan is amongst the A-List in Hollywood right now, stacked right aside such talents as Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, Michael Mann, et al. I'm sure whatever he does next is going to grab a lot of people's attention.
You are getting waaayyyy ahead of yourself now. Nolan amongst Spielberg and Scorsese? Are you nuts? These guys gave us one hit after another, all Nolan gave was Dark Knight. Let him give us a few more movies that are the blockbusters of their respective years and then we'll see.
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Old July 28 2008, 03:18 AM   #358
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You are getting waaayyyy ahead of yourself now. Nolan amongst Spielberg and Scorsese? Are you nuts? These guys gave us one hit after another, all Nolan gave was Dark Knight. Let him give us a few more movies that are the blockbusters of their respective years and then we'll see.
Scorsese didn't make that many blockblusters. His highest gross film ever was his recent Best Picture winner The Departed. In terms of quality I think Nolan has already reached Spielburg's level but not Scorsese's. Hey I know I am biased towards to Scorsese as he is my favorite director along with Kubrick and Lynch.

Nolan's notable works so far are Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. My favorite Nolan movie is still Memento but TDK is a fairly close second.
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Old July 28 2008, 05:54 AM   #359
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^^ you are probably right in that he didnt have anything useful, but it did seem like the torture worked in the sense that if the guy had have known something, he would have spilled it.
Er... so Hillary's campaign was a success? After all, if she'd gotten more delegates than Barack, she would have won.

Sorry, but that's an unproven hypothetical.
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You are getting waaayyyy ahead of yourself now. Nolan amongst Spielberg and Scorsese? Are you nuts? These guys gave us one hit after another, all Nolan gave was Dark Knight. Let him give us a few more movies that are the blockbusters of their respective years and then we'll see.
Scorsese didn't make that many blockblusters. His highest gross film ever was his recent Best Picture winner The Departed. In terms of quality I think Nolan has already reached Spielburg's level but not Scorsese's. Hey I know I am biased towards to Scorsese as he is my favorite director along with Kubrick and Lynch.

Nolan's notable works so far are Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. My favorite Nolan movie is still Memento but TDK is a fairly close second.
Much agreed. Chris Nolan's films have been consistently good. As he continues to do more work, the quality level in his films just get higher and higher.
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