A Definitive List - Page 2

USS Intrepid · July 18 2008, 08:50 PM

MikeH92467 wrote:

USS Intrepid wrote:

Wowbagger wrote:

I hear what you're saying. I'm really not trying to be misleading; I'm remembering my days as an uninitiate. Back then, when I saw the phrase "fan production," my eyes would glaze over and move on, or, at best, I might look at the phrase in disinterested confusion and then move on to greener pastures farther down the forum list.

Regardless, it is still misleading. Whether you like the use of production or not, it is still a more valid term.

If people's eyes are "glazing over" when they read fan production. they're not going to come into a forum labelled fan productions to read a thread entitled fan films.

Sounds like it's time for a compromise! Perhaps the title could read "A Definitive Fan Film/Audio List?

I'd settle for that.

Mallory · July 19 2008, 02:59 AM

Let me know if you want me to change the title Wowbagger. I figured out how to do that once upon a time in vBulletin and I could probably figure it out again.

Wowbagger · July 19 2008, 06:14 AM

Sigh... the only possible title I can imagine that would be worse than "A Definitive Fan Production List" would be Mike's slash-based compromise proposal. (Sorry, Mike. I hate "Definitive Fan Film/Audio List" with every fiber of my being.)

Well, no, that's not true. I toyed today with "Fan Undertakings," "Amateur Artistries," and "Fan Inwentions" (note the Russian accent!), all of which are immeasurably worse.

The ones I came up with today that I did sorta like were "Fan Fabrication" and "Fan-Mades" (as in "A Definitive List of Fan-Mades," with all due credit for the name to Anthony Pascale). Is there any popular support for either of those, or are we stuck with "A Definitive List of Fan Productions"?

Either way, I and the present thread title stand defeated by the overwhelming vox populi. I'll include the new and immeasurably more accurate title in my update to you Sunday, Mallory. (Hopefully I'll be able to take a few public opinions into account by then.) That'll be in your PM box right after I find out the runtime of "Where There's A Sea," which I'll know right after I download it, which I'll do right after it's released.

Did anyone else realize that Karl Puder has been in roughly 22% of all productions listed? I added that up today after I ran into his voice in a completely unexpected place. Scary how he gets around. Which only proves my point about him.

MikeH92467 · July 19 2008, 02:11 PM

No hard feelings James! If I helped kick start the creatie process then it's all good! Fan Mades works for me. After all, it's already in the Fan Productions forum, so it's not like anyone will be confused by what you mean.

USS Intrepid · July 19 2008, 02:15 PM

I still prefer fan productions. I really don't like fan mades I'm afraid. That really does make my eyes glaze over.

Racan · July 19 2008, 05:44 PM

Hi,

I'm a director/writer/producer of "Chains of Betrayal", one of the film's you mentioned, and I wanted to assure you that we'll definitely be releasing the project on Youtube in the near future. We frantically finished the episode mere day before our premiere in Vancouver, and since then we've been trying to complete a limited DVD release for our cast and crew. There's also a few deadlines for film festival dates that have been occupying our time. We definitely haven't forgotten the Trek community, though. I'll let you all know as soon as we put the film in full on the internet.

Thanks for the interest,

Racan

MikeH92467 · July 19 2008, 08:08 PM

I'll give it one more try. Why not just title the thread "A Definitive List". Like I said before the thread is already in the "Fan Productions" forum, so that should prevent anyone from asking "list of what?". Or maybe they'll be curious enough to open it and look for themselves?

Wowbagger · July 19 2008, 08:23 PM

USS Intrepid wrote:

I still prefer fan productions. I really don't like fan mades I'm afraid. That really does make my eyes glaze over.

Touche!

Wowbagger · July 19 2008, 09:25 PM

Actually, Mike, that's not half-bad.

Great news about "Chains," Racan! Let me know as soon as I have someplace to link to!

Wowbagger · July 21 2008, 11:21 AM

Despite the huge bummer of the Intrepid delay (that's life, but... man, it totally ruined my 4:30 AM - 5:00 AM timeblock), I have delivered the updated list to Mallory.

The plus side of this is that, in all likelihood, Intrepid will get the "Updated" section all to itself in next week's update.

Today's trivia link: I've spent literally days looking for this, and I found it tonight purely by accident: the Star Trek: Defiant RPG list. This is the list that, as the godfather of both ST: Defiant and nearly all of Darker Projects Trek productions (Lost Frontier, Section 31, Crossroads), basically spawned audio fan shows as we know them.

Excelsior remains the first show to base its episodes directly on an RPG's actual written adventures, but clearly the connection between RPG's and fan audio runs very deep and very, very old.

USS Intrepid · July 21 2008, 05:14 PM

Tales of the Seventh Fleet is based on an RPG. Intrepid is also loosely based on an RPG.

Mallory · July 21 2008, 06:22 PM

Wowbagger wrote:

Despite the huge bummer of the Intrepid delay (that's life, but... man, it totally ruined my 4:30 AM - 5:00 AM timeblock), I have delivered the updated list to Mallory.

I received the updates. I'm just getting my day started and have a few other things to do first, but I should get to it within the next couple of hours. I'll post here when it's been changed.

Mallory · July 22 2008, 06:05 PM

I've updated the original post at Wowbagger's request.

Freman · July 23 2008, 02:08 AM

What's going on with Tales from the Seventh Fleet these days, anyway?

Tom Hendricks · July 23 2008, 03:50 AM

We filmed two episodes back to back and are currently working on the CGI for both. I think we will have a trailer soon for the first of the two episodes titled "Street Fight."

July 19 2008, 02:59 AM	#17
Mallory Moderator Location: Oregon, USA	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List Let me know if you want me to change the title Wowbagger. I figured out how to do that once upon a time in vBulletin and I could probably figure it out again. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin You can't hide from Mallory, he's, like, all-seeing and all-knowing, which is also really creepy. - Goji

July 19 2008, 06:14 AM	#18
Wowbagger Fleet Captain Location: Back in the U.S.S.R.	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List Sigh... the only possible title I can imagine that would be worse than "A Definitive Fan Production List" would be Mike's slash-based compromise proposal. (Sorry, Mike. I hate "Definitive Fan Film/Audio List" with every fiber of my being.) Well, no, that's not true. I toyed today with "Fan Undertakings," "Amateur Artistries," and "Fan Inwentions" (note the Russian accent!), all of which are immeasurably worse. The ones I came up with today that I did sorta like were "Fan Fabrication" and "Fan-Mades" (as in "A Definitive List of Fan-Mades," with all due credit for the name to Anthony Pascale). Is there any popular support for either of those, or are we stuck with "A Definitive List of Fan Productions"? Either way, I and the present thread title stand defeated by the overwhelming vox populi. I'll include the new and immeasurably more accurate title in my update to you Sunday, Mallory. (Hopefully I'll be able to take a few public opinions into account by then.) That'll be in your PM box right after I find out the runtime of "Where There's A Sea," which I'll know right after I download it, which I'll do right after it's released. Did anyone else realize that Karl Puder has been in roughly 22% of all productions listed? I added that up today after I ran into his voice in a completely unexpected place. Scary how he gets around. Which only proves my point about him. __________________ Star Trek: Excelsior: a full-cast Star Trek audio drama, releasing episodes semi-monthly. With more than 100,000 downloads, we must be doing something right! Last edited by Wowbagger; July 19 2008 at 06:19 AM.

July 19 2008, 02:11 PM	#19
MikeH92467 Vice Admiral Location: Tampa, FL	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List No hard feelings James! If I helped kick start the creatie process then it's all good! Fan Mades works for me. After all, it's already in the Fan Productions forum, so it's not like anyone will be confused by what you mean. __________________ "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." Annie Savoy

July 19 2008, 02:15 PM	#20
USS Intrepid Commodore Location: Dundee, Scotland, UK	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List I still prefer fan productions. I really don't like fan mades I'm afraid. That really does make my eyes glaze over. __________________ Star Trek: Intrepid Last edited by USS Intrepid; July 19 2008 at 02:32 PM.

July 19 2008, 05:44 PM	#21
Racan Cadet Location: Vancouver, BC	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List Hi, I'm a director/writer/producer of "Chains of Betrayal", one of the film's you mentioned, and I wanted to assure you that we'll definitely be releasing the project on Youtube in the near future. We frantically finished the episode mere day before our premiere in Vancouver, and since then we've been trying to complete a limited DVD release for our cast and crew. There's also a few deadlines for film festival dates that have been occupying our time. We definitely haven't forgotten the Trek community, though. I'll let you all know as soon as we put the film in full on the internet. Thanks for the interest, Racan

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July 19 2008, 08:08 PM	#22
MikeH92467 Vice Admiral Location: Tampa, FL	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List I'll give it one more try. Why not just title the thread "A Definitive List". Like I said before the thread is already in the "Fan Productions" forum, so that should prevent anyone from asking "list of what?". Or maybe they'll be curious enough to open it and look for themselves? __________________ "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self-awareness." Annie Savoy

July 19 2008, 09:25 PM	#24
Wowbagger Fleet Captain Location: Back in the U.S.S.R.	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List Actually, Mike, that's not half-bad. Great news about "Chains," Racan! Let me know as soon as I have someplace to link to! __________________ Star Trek: Excelsior: a full-cast Star Trek audio drama, releasing episodes semi-monthly. With more than 100,000 downloads, we must be doing something right!

July 21 2008, 11:21 AM	#25
Wowbagger Fleet Captain Location: Back in the U.S.S.R.	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List Despite the huge bummer of the Intrepid delay (that's life, but... man, it totally ruined my 4:30 AM - 5:00 AM timeblock), I have delivered the updated list to Mallory. The plus side of this is that, in all likelihood, Intrepid will get the "Updated" section all to itself in next week's update. Today's trivia link: I've spent literally days looking for this, and I found it tonight purely by accident: the Star Trek: Defiant RPG list. This is the list that, as the godfather of both ST: Defiant and nearly all of Darker Projects Trek productions (Lost Frontier, Section 31, Crossroads), basically spawned audio fan shows as we know them. Excelsior remains the first show to base its episodes directly on an RPG's actual written adventures, but clearly the connection between RPG's and fan audio runs very deep and very, very old. __________________ Star Trek: Excelsior: a full-cast Star Trek audio drama, releasing episodes semi-monthly. With more than 100,000 downloads, we must be doing something right!

July 21 2008, 05:14 PM	#26
USS Intrepid Commodore Location: Dundee, Scotland, UK	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List Tales of the Seventh Fleet is based on an RPG. Intrepid is also loosely based on an RPG. __________________ Star Trek: Intrepid Last edited by USS Intrepid; July 21 2008 at 05:32 PM.

July 22 2008, 06:05 PM	#28
Mallory Moderator Location: Oregon, USA	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List I've updated the original post at Wowbagger's request. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy - Benjamin Franklin You can't hide from Mallory, he's, like, all-seeing and all-knowing, which is also really creepy. - Goji

July 23 2008, 02:08 AM	#29
Freman Fleet Captain Location: Kenora, Ontario, Canada	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List What's going on with Tales from the Seventh Fleet these days, anyway? __________________ Booyaka!!!!

July 23 2008, 03:50 AM	#30
Tom Hendricks Muad'Dib Location: Syracuse, NY	Re: A Definitive Fan Film List We filmed two episodes back to back and are currently working on the CGI for both. I think we will have a trailer soon for the first of the two episodes titled "Street Fight." __________________ I believe in the teachings of the middle ground. I maybe blind but my heart can see. Of course I'm a creationist. I believe man created god.