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Old July 16 2008, 12:49 AM   #76
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Re: Sci-fi Brilliant but Canceled or little known gems

^ Doesn't Markstein also believe that Number Six is John Drake (McGoohan's earlier spy character), while McG himself says the opposite?
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Old July 16 2008, 03:13 AM   #77
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everyone, hang you heads in shame for letting this thread go on so long without mentioning The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. a one-season wonder that was on Fox in the early 90s, starring Bruce Campbell (Evil Dead and every other Sam Raimi film) in a mad-cap western with sci-fi overtones (time travel, aliens, rockets, etc.) finally out of DVD. go watch it and enjoy yourself
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Old July 16 2008, 03:17 AM   #78
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^ Doesn't Markstein also believe that Number Six is John Drake (McGoohan's earlier spy character), while McG himself says the opposite?
Yeah, Markstein says that the Prisoner is John Drake while McGoohan says he isn't. Then again, they also disagree as to who came up with the initial premise of the series. Markstein says he came up with it. McGoohan says that he first brought the premise to ITV with the notion of it being a seven-episode mini.
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Old July 16 2008, 03:26 AM   #79
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From way, way back, My Living Doll with Julie Newmar as Robert Cumming's robot.
I have two episodes of that series on VHS. It wasn't bad.
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Old July 16 2008, 03:45 AM   #80
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^ Doesn't Markstein also believe that Number Six is John Drake (McGoohan's earlier spy character), while McG himself says the opposite?
Yeah, Markstein says that the Prisoner is John Drake while McGoohan says he isn't. Then again, they also disagree as to who came up with the initial premise of the series. Markstein says he came up with it. McGoohan says that he first brought the premise to ITV with the notion of it being a seven-episode mini.
It doesn't hurt to keep in mind McGoohan pretty much shut down "Danger Man" to morph into "The Prisoner". He COULD have given Number 6 a name if he'd wanted to. I think it's pretty clear he was "cashing in" on the John Drake thing, personally.
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Old July 16 2008, 03:55 AM   #81
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Haven't noticed Invasion mentioned yet. Not exactly low-profile but it certainly was going somewhere when the plug was pulled.
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Old July 16 2008, 04:48 AM   #82
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^ Doesn't Markstein also believe that Number Six is John Drake (McGoohan's earlier spy character), while McG himself says the opposite?
Yeah, Markstein says that the Prisoner is John Drake while McGoohan says he isn't. Then again, they also disagree as to who came up with the initial premise of the series. Markstein says he came up with it. McGoohan says that he first brought the premise to ITV with the notion of it being a seven-episode mini.
It doesn't hurt to keep in mind McGoohan pretty much shut down "Danger Man" to morph into "The Prisoner". He COULD have given Number 6 a name if he'd wanted to. I think it's pretty clear he was "cashing in" on the John Drake thing, personally.
It's also been noted that the American theme song to Secret Agent (what Danger Man is called in the U.S.) includes the lyrics, "They've given you a number and taken away your name."

Personally, I like that this will always be one of the great debated, unresolved questions in sci-fi history. I lean towards the school of thought that says that Number 6 is John Drake but I don't insist that everyone thinks so. I'm just big on crossovers. (Hell, I'm trying to figure out a way to finagle it so that 10,000 B.C. is a prequel to Stargate and that Mac MacDonald's character in Aliens is actually Captain Hollister from Red Dwarf.)
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Old July 16 2008, 11:43 AM   #83
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Wild Palms, James Belushi in 1993. Which I liked at the time, who knows now.

There was a brief series around the late 90's, a science fiction noire in the vein of Bladerunner, with an android cop as the lead's partner. Anyone remember that? Like Data meets Seven (Pitt, not of Nine).
Wild Palms was a mini-series, so technically it wasn't cancelled.

The other one sounds a lot like Total Recall 2070

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_2070
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Old July 16 2008, 03:17 PM   #84
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I'm thinking about shows like:

Charlie Jade
Entered this thread to recommend precisely this show. Very good show, do try it.
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Old July 16 2008, 05:25 PM   #85
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Wonderfalls - this was an awesome little show. Every time I see a coin on the ground I still think of the barrel bear saying "Find a penny - pick it up"....and I occasionally console myself about this issue or that with a mental picture of the monkey bookend saying "It's perfectly normal". I'm just thankful that they did the first season as a self-contained unit with a good ending. I'd have loved to have seen more seasons, but the show is very watchable on DVD because it ends well.
Yeah. Plus, I think some of the ideas they had for season 2 were kinda . (Sharon gets pregnant from the semen leftover in her girlfriend's vagina?!?)

Still, I loved the show a lot. Katie Finneran & Caroline Dhavernas are 2 of the cutest actresses in TV history. (Heaven would be making them the bread in a me-sandwich.)
I haven't read all that much about ideas they had for future seasons. Although I think that I did read (maybe on Wiki?) that they were tossing around the idea of Jaye ending up in a mental institution at some point....

Not sure how they could have made that funny...but then, I was continuously amazed at that show...and at Pushing Daisies too, for that matter! I love Bryan Fuller! That guy could make just about anything funny, I think. I'm not as big of a fan of Dead Like Me, but I think it's because I don't really like that actress very much.

As for the actresses in Wonderfalls, I especially liked Caroline Dhavernas. I think she is great - REALLY great. I wish Fuller would cast her again in something quirky - she was very good at quirky. In fact, I can't help wondering if I'd have liked Dead Like Me more if she has been the star of that one.

Katie Finneran was good too, but for my money it's Caroline all the way. Katie can get a bit screechy at times for my taste. Still love her...but Caroline is better, IMO.
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Old July 17 2008, 11:04 PM   #86
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Relic Hunter
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An oldie but a goody that I did not see mentioned yet was the show Wizards and Warriors from the early 80s. [maybe 1979]
Ooh, Dirk Blackpool... Duncan Regehr! That show was on in 1984.

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Seaquest
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My own choices are:

The Crow: Stairway to Heaven -- okay, I know some people can't stand it because it's not like the movie. But let's face it -- it would be an awfully short(er) series if all the bad guys got killed right away. The way it was done in the series is that the bad guys were being killed off gradually... and in ways that worked against Eric. The whole revenge vs. redemption/forgiveness quandary... it's hard to figure out sometimes in RL, and the show did an excellent job of exploring this theme. And the actors were so good at getting into their characters; I've been truly inspired in my fanfic efforts for this show, and currently have about 3 binders full of stories and poems. Sometimes all it took was a single line of dialogue or a character's unspoken reaction to somebody else's dialogue to make me get ideas on why he/she said that, why the character reacted that way... the words just flowed out.

This show was supposed to run a second season. They had been given the go-ahead... and then corporate crap happened. I don't recall which company bought which other company which decided that gothic fantasy wasn't what anybody wanted to watch -- but those decisions made the fans extremely frustrated because the first season ended on a literal cliffhanger. And now we'll never know what was meant to happen.

My other picks for this thread:

Highlander: The Raven
Space Island One
The Fantastic Journey
Logan's Run (yep, it was a TV series, too!)
Starman
Hard Time on Planet Earth
Planet of the Apes
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Old July 18 2008, 01:36 AM   #87
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Jericho and Invasion. Great shows that are both on top of my list of favorites.
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Old July 18 2008, 02:03 AM   #88
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Wonderfalls - this was an awesome little show. Every time I see a coin on the ground I still think of the barrel bear saying "Find a penny - pick it up"....and I occasionally console myself about this issue or that with a mental picture of the monkey bookend saying "It's perfectly normal". I'm just thankful that they did the first season as a self-contained unit with a good ending. I'd have loved to have seen more seasons, but the show is very watchable on DVD because it ends well.
Yeah. Plus, I think some of the ideas they had for season 2 were kinda . (Sharon gets pregnant from the semen leftover in her girlfriend's vagina?!?)

Still, I loved the show a lot. Katie Finneran & Caroline Dhavernas are 2 of the cutest actresses in TV history. (Heaven would be making them the bread in a me-sandwich.)
I haven't read all that much about ideas they had for future seasons. Although I think that I did read (maybe on Wiki?) that they were tossing around the idea of Jaye ending up in a mental institution at some point....
Yeah. The only 2 future season ideas they mentioned on the DVD set were Sharon's pregnancy in Season 2 and Jaye getting sent to a mental institution for the Season 2 cliffhanger. One of the other people in the institution would have been the kid from "Lovesick Ass."
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Old July 18 2008, 02:13 AM   #89
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It's also been noted that the American theme song to Secret Agent (what Danger Man is called in the U.S.) includes the lyrics, "They've given you a number and taken away your name."
I had no idea that song was the theme song to a TV series. I always just thought it was a take on 007 (since its main guitar riff is taken directly from the Bond theme).

I've never seen Secret Agent, though.
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Wild Palms, James Belushi in 1993. Which I liked at the time, who knows now.

There was a brief series around the late 90's, a science fiction noire in the vein of Bladerunner, with an android cop as the lead's partner. Anyone remember that? Like Data meets Seven (Pitt, not of Nine).
Wild Palms was a mini-series, so technically it wasn't cancelled.

The other one sounds a lot like Total Recall 2070

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_2070
Thanks, that's the one!
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