If STNG were remastered... - Page 3

ialfan · July 14 2008, 02:45 AM

Tactical Drone wrote:

Tomalak wrote:

Tactical Drone wrote:

I've said it many times, PLEASE get rid of those damn 80's green computer screens in the earlier episodes. I think they've made color screens in 400 years!!!

What about those screens in the first four movies - clearly made on an old BBC Micro.

Do you happen to have a screenshot? I can't seem to remember how they looked, but they had to have been better than 80's green screens..

I think this might be what he was referring to:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...akednow052.jpg

RAMA · July 14 2008, 03:46 AM

bigdaddy wrote:

The show's first few seasons are badly in needed of a clean up, even TOS looks better. However the later seasons look fine as they are.

They don't need a "clean up", the compositing technologies were light years ahead of TOS. STNG could never look worse than TOS.. What they DO need is an upgrade for HD. Therefore there is NO point in discussing which FX need to be done, they ALL do.

RAMA

RAMA · July 14 2008, 03:50 AM

Tactical Drone wrote:

I've said it many times, PLEASE get rid of those damn 80's green computer screens in the earlier episodes. I think they've made color screens in 400 years!!!

What on Earth are you talking about?? The green LCARS screen still look hi-tech! What does it matter what color they are? Green just happens to be my favorite color, but STNG also used many different colors for the computer displays. I don't see how that makes it look "80s" unless you're referring to DOS.

RAMA

Tomalak · July 14 2008, 04:15 AM

ialfan wrote:

Tactical Drone wrote:

Tomalak wrote:

What about those screens in the first four movies - clearly made on an old BBC Micro.

Do you happen to have a screenshot? I can't seem to remember how they looked, but they had to have been better than 80's green screens..

I think this might be what he was referring to:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...akednow052.jpg

It was more this sort of stuff I was thinking about. Star Trek III is the worst offender.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...4/twok1138.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...1/twok0010.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...k1985/sfs1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...k1985/sfs2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...k1985/sfs3.jpg

See that? That's the future that is.

Dukhat · July 14 2008, 04:56 AM

If all they were going to do was replace all the Excelsiors, Mirandas and Oberths with CGI models of the same ships, then why even bother?

The only episode I'd want remastered would be "Best of Both Worlds, Pt. II," if only so we can finally see new CGI models of all 40 starships that were destroyed (or perhaps "Redemption" as well, so we could see all 20-odd ships in Picard's tachyon detection grid). I could care less about seeing new visual effects for any other TNG episode.

Squiggy · July 14 2008, 12:21 PM

TWOK

Bosch571 · July 14 2008, 12:44 PM

Dukhat wrote:

If all they were going to do was replace all the Excelsiors, Mirandas and Oberths with CGI models of the same ships, then why even bother?

Because they did the sfx of TNG (just like DS9 and VOY) on video, so you can’t make a HD version of them without redoing the effects, at least if you want them to look decent.

Squiggy · July 14 2008, 02:17 PM

Bosch571 wrote:

Dukhat wrote:

If all they were going to do was replace all the Excelsiors, Mirandas and Oberths with CGI models of the same ships, then why even bother?

Because they did the sfx of TNG (just like DS9 and VOY) on video, so you can’t make a HD version of them without redoing the effects, at least if you want them to look decent.

Isn't that sort of the point?

Nerdius Maximus · July 14 2008, 02:23 PM

RAMA wrote:

Tactical Drone wrote:

I've said it many times, PLEASE get rid of those damn 80's green computer screens in the earlier episodes. I think they've made color screens in 400 years!!!

What on Earth are you talking about?? The green LCARS screen still look hi-tech! What does it matter what color they are? Green just happens to be my favorite color, but STNG also used many different colors for the computer displays. I don't see how that makes it look "80s" unless you're referring to DOS.

RAMA

Well, it does look '80s, because it was an '80s show! I don't understand this fascination everyone has with trying to make everything look "new." I want to see the shows I grew up with when I watch TNG. They're a snapshot of that particular moment in time. I don't want to watch "Encounter at Farpoint" and be reminded that it's 2008, for fuck's sake.

Nerdius Maximus · July 14 2008, 02:27 PM

Tomalak wrote:

ialfan wrote:

Tactical Drone wrote:

Do you happen to have a screenshot? I can't seem to remember how they looked, but they had to have been better than 80's green screens..

I think this might be what he was referring to:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...akednow052.jpg

It was more this sort of stuff I was thinking about. Star Trek III is the worst offender.

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...4/twok1138.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...1/twok0010.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...k1985/sfs1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...k1985/sfs2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...k1985/sfs3.jpg

See that? That's the future that is.

All of those are awesome. Redo them and in ten years that will seem laughable, too. What's the point? All this "improving" reminds me of the scene from Batman(1989)where the Joker is vandalizing all the paintings in the art museum.

Squiggy · July 14 2008, 02:27 PM

That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD.

Nerdius Maximus · July 14 2008, 02:35 PM

Squiggyfm wrote:

That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD.

Well, since they're already being aired in HD on sci-fi's HD channel, I don't see how that would be the case.

Squiggy · July 14 2008, 02:41 PM

Ah yes. I was thinking about TOS, which was remastered because the original effects were too dirty for HD.

Nerdius Maximus · July 14 2008, 05:44 PM

Squiggyfm wrote:

Ah yes. I was thinking about TOS, which was remastered because the original effects were too dirty for HD.

Hmmm. Well, you can watch the dvd's upscaled on a blu-ray player and they look fine. I think I'll stick with that until all this "improvement" madness has run its course.

Mr. Laser Beam · July 14 2008, 06:21 PM

Squiggyfm wrote:

That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD.

Networks will do no such thing.

They're going all DIGITAL next year. But not all digital is HD.

Nerdius Maximus wrote:

Squiggyfm wrote:

That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD.

Well, since they're already being aired in HD on sci-fi's HD channel, I don't see how that would be the case.

Just because a show is aired on an HD channel, doesn't mean the show itself is HD.

Stargate SG-1, for example, airs in syndicated reruns on one of our HD channels (not Sci-Fi), but not actually *IN* HD.

July 14 2008, 04:56 AM	#35
Dukhat Commodore Location: Baltimore, MD	Re: If STNG were remastered... If all they were going to do was replace all the Excelsiors, Mirandas and Oberths with CGI models of the same ships, then why even bother? The only episode I'd want remastered would be "Best of Both Worlds, Pt. II," if only so we can finally see new CGI models of all 40 starships that were destroyed (or perhaps "Redemption" as well, so we could see all 20-odd ships in Picard's tachyon detection grid). I could care less about seeing new visual effects for any other TNG episode.

July 14 2008, 12:21 PM	#36
Squiggy Shit Supreme Location: Not on your life, my Hindu friend.	Re: If STNG were remastered... TWOK __________________ ENOUGH OF THIS TURGID BASH WANKERY!

July 14 2008, 02:27 PM	#41
Squiggy Shit Supreme Location: Not on your life, my Hindu friend.	Re: If STNG were remastered... That will eliminate any chance of it airing in a few years when networks go solely HD. __________________ ENOUGH OF THIS TURGID BASH WANKERY!

July 14 2008, 02:41 PM	#43
Squiggy Shit Supreme Location: Not on your life, my Hindu friend.	Re: If STNG were remastered... Ah yes. I was thinking about TOS, which was remastered because the original effects were too dirty for HD. __________________ ENOUGH OF THIS TURGID BASH WANKERY!

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