The Dark Knight Megathread (USE THIS! Love, the mods)

[JacksonArcher]

I will agree with you there. This is the one time where I actually approved of a re-casting verses frowning down on it.

[Trekker4747]

JacksonArcher wrote:

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I will agree with you there. This is the one time where I actually approved of a re-casting verses frowning down on it.

Yeah. Not only is she better looking, a woman who's a better match for Bale, and less vapid of an actress, she's also better looking!

[JacksonArcher]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Yeah. Not only is she better looking, a woman who's a better match for Bale, and less vapid of an actress, she's also better looking!

She's also much more talented than Holmes, and has the advantage of looking kind of like her. But like you said, more attractive.

[Agent Richard07]

[Agent Richard07]

JacksonArcher wrote:

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[Maggie Gyllenhaal] has the advantage of looking kind of like her. But like you said, more attractive.

Seriously though, yeah I can see a resemblance that I haven't noticed before this movie...

[JacksonArcher]

Agent Richard07 wrote:

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I showed this to my friend and he shrieked. Thanks.

[Trekker4747]

Agent Richard07 wrote:

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Seriously though, yeah I can see a resemblance that I haven't noticed before this movie...

Maggie just looks so cute and wonderous in that pictuee. Katie just looks... vapid.

:goes to watch Stranger Than Fiction:

[JacksonArcher]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Maggie just looks so cute and wonderous in that pictuee. Katie just looks... vapid.

:goes to watch Stranger Than Fiction:

I agree. When comparing the two, Maggie does seem a lot more better-suited than Katie.

[Trekker4747]

JacksonArcher wrote:

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I agree. When comparing the two, Maggie does seem a lot more better-suited than Katie.

Look at their eyes. Maggie looks deep, thoughtful and gleefully wonderous.

Katie looks like she's trying to decide which box of candy she wants out of the concession stand.

[nx1701g]

^ For some reason every time I look at Maggie I can't help but think of that Family Guy cutaway that makes fun of her.

[Broccoli]

^^ I love how people are comparing two pictures in the same dramatic context when they clearly are not. As I've said before, I think that Katie and Maggie are about the same when it comes to acting chops. For whatever reason, I cannot stand Maggie in the previous things I've seen her in, but I do admit, she looks more believable in the role (Katie looks very young, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but if you are an Assistant DA...). It is a shame that Katie won't be back in TDK, mostly because I thought she and Two-Face guy (can't think of name) had good chemistry in Thank You for Smoking.

Aragorn wrote:

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Ebert's a big Batman fan. He didn't like any of the Burton/Schmacher films.

If memory serves, he actually gave a fairly positive review of Batman Forever, but don't quote me on that.

JacksonArcher wrote:

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I can understand him simply saying he doesn't like those efforts, but to continually nitpick and criticize them in my opinion shows bias...

You mean like just about everyone here? Jackson, dude, you have gone silly with love for Batman Begins and Superman Returns and defend those films with all your heart. Doesn't that show bias on your part? I'm not saying it is wrong (I'm right there with you on SR), but perhaps this guy really, really, really hates this current Bat-franchise the way you hate Spidey 2. Maybe he just likes his superhero films light and fluffy, like Fantastic Four was.

[Aragorn]

Siskel liked Forever. Ebert hated all four. I know they both liked Mask of the Phantasm, but Siskel didn't like Mark Hamill's voicework.

You can actually see their reviews of the Batman films at At the Movies With Ebert & Roeper.

[Trekker4747]

Broccoli wrote:

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^^ I love how people are comparing two pictures in the same dramatic context when they clearly are not.

I dunno. Can't say I've seen Katie do anything that's overly impressed me. Yeah, the pictures are out of context between another but, still, Maggie has a lot more life in her picture and that's generally my impression of her as an actress. Katie, much like her picture, is just "there."

[Aragorn]

Katie's top performance is probably Pieces of April (though I'm sure a lot of guys appreciated what she did in The Gift). Maggie's done a lot more of those dark and depressing indy flicks.

But if you need to compare the second set of pics that AgentRichard07 posted, then by the same standard you have to compare the first set of pics.

[JacksonArcher]

Broccoli wrote:

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^^ I love how people are comparing two pictures in the same dramatic context when they clearly are not. As I've said before, I think that Katie and Maggie are about the same when it comes to acting chops. For whatever reason, I cannot stand Maggie in the previous things I've seen her in, but I do admit, she looks more believable in the role (Katie looks very young, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but if you are an Assistant DA...). It is a shame that Katie won't be back in TDK, mostly because I thought she and Two-Face guy (can't think of name) had good chemistry in Thank You for Smoking.

We're just comparing pictures. And for the record, I think Gyllenhaal is a far better actress (for examples, see Sherrybaby, Stranger Than Fiction, Happy Endings, Secretary).

If memory serves, he actually gave a fairly positive review of Batman Forever, but don't quote me on that.

He disliked all four previous Batman films. Batman Begins was the first live-action Batman film that he gave a Thumbs Up to.

You mean like just about everyone here? Jackson, dude, you have gone silly with love for Batman Begins and Superman Returns and defend those films with all your heart. Doesn't that show bias on your part? I'm not saying it is wrong (I'm right there with you on SR), but perhaps this guy really, really, really hates this current Bat-franchise the way you hate Spidey 2. Maybe he just likes his superhero films light and fluffy, like Fantastic Four was.

I admit, though, that Batman Begins and Superman Returns both have flaws. That's why I re-wrote both. And as much as I dislike Spider-Man 2, I can praise certain parts of it (Danny Elfman's score, the action choreography, the cinematography, et al). It's not that he prefers his superhero films light and fluffy, he just doesn't know how to properly critique a film without coming off as nitpicky and biased. He has no objectivity it seems like. That kind of annoys me.